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(...) As much as you want? (...) No matter the cost? At maximum quality? (...) I don't know what that means. (...) All kinds? (...) It is not. In your system, do you have the right to multiple wives? Prostitution? Recreational drugs? What about (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Jesus of (...) for (...) I (...) would (...) What (...) it (...) You weren't asking me, but this is a great question. I think direct observation of a miraculous occurance that I couldn't explain in any other way more easily would cause me to (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Science is not in the business of proving anything. Proof is not a stage in the scientific life cycle. Scientists don't even believe in proof. Proof isn't what we're looking for. Increasing evidence and plausibility are the goals. This may (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's the long disputed point-- and to that end, how about the question "If God can do anything, can he make a problem so difficult that HE can't solve it?" Basically, the Christian idea of free will says to me that God allowed for the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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For closure, in order to make the historical record complete. In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jon Kozan writes: <snip> a very long and point by point "refutation" Jon, you missed the point. The real question here, which you didn't address, is "is this (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) They would get a job. They would buy cheap land (at ~$200 per acre!). They would buy startup supplies including axe and loom. What's so hard about that? Most of the so-called poor in America have it great (when compared to the poor in truly (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Assuming those are true (that things are "free"), Dunno. Are there any downsides or hidden costs? I of course hold there are no utopias per se. But suppose, readdressing my question if we could, that I could give you a system that delivered (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In my sytem I have the right to free education. In my sytem I have the right to free healthcare. In my sytem I have the right the right to social provision. In my system a starving man has the right to food. Is that not utopia? Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Damn spall checker - Intelligence. Your interpretation of my lazy spell checking conveys the same point. (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Knowing that it would happen, but creating Lucifer anyways, he in effect DID cause it. Just as he has caused all sin in history, as he created everyone knowing exactly what would happen. (...) Sure he did - he created us, knowing we would (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In a way, it's because time itself doesn't really exist "at the beginning." All the rules are off before, I believe, the first microsecond after the bang or poof or whatever-- our understanding of things Science can only take us so far, (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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trimmed lugnet.admin.general and lugnet.off-topic.debate from the FUT, added lugnet.general (...) I like verdigris as a color name but given that TLC has introduced several colors now with the saturation value turned way down (blue-gray and (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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(...) Absitively. I couldn't agree much more, although it *is* rather sobering sometimes. (...) Verdigris? Didn't he do the soundtrack to 'Chariots of Fire?' I actually like that a lot. So what do we call the LoM grey-pink-- rouxigris? :) (I still (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think so. Let's get more hypothetical, then (is it possible to be more or less hypothetical? I think so)... Suppose that I could provide you a society in which non governmental systems were providing everything, EVERYTHING, you wanted to (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "inelegance" ?? Do you mean in the anorak sense? I had always thought that the thoughts produced by those I regard as truly awesome intellects tend to be, on average (not always, of course) be *more* elegant than normal. Thoughts that when you (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hmm. I suppose it depends on what you mean by average. I assume you are just rating myself, and others, against your own above average intellect? Perception of intellect is an area which always exasperates me. I find that people mix these (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well I guess these are all good arguments for TLG to move their production facilities elsewhere. Though this may be sour for the people who will be layed off at the Enfield plant this is just another fine example of how globalisation takes its (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And yet, Bruce, if I said to you "there is a God who exists as revealed by Jesus of Nazareth", what would be your first response? Maybe you'd say, "that's nice for you, now run along and play" (oops, that's what *Lar* would say). But what if (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the understanding of God changed and matured through time in the OT. The early Israelites were polytheistic; they had to learn that there was only one god YHWH. YHWH was perceived as a war God. This is definitely inconsistent (in my (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If someone has a completely adequate understanding of theology, and remains agnostic or atheist, IMHO it is pointless to continually badger them about the reality of God. Ultimately belief relies on faith, an irrational attribute that should (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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