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Re: The Problem of Evil
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Tue, 5 Dec 2000 06:43:52 GMT
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johnneal@uswest.netSTOPSPAMMERS
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" wrote:
> John Neal wrote:
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> > > I guess that puts them pretty much on the same
> > > team. Ever read the Book of Job?
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> > Yes.
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> > > See what I mean?
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> > No. The book of Job is a story, not a proof text that a devil exists.
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> THE ENTIRE BIBLE is a collection of stories. It conflicts itself all over the
> place. I suppose you pull the standard dodges, and only pick what parts you agree
> with, and say they are true while the rest MUST be wrong?
I think the understanding of God changed and matured through time in the OT. The
early Israelites were polytheistic; they had to learn that there was only one god
YHWH. YHWH was perceived as a war God. This is definitely inconsistent (in my
mind) with the revelation of God's nature from Jesus, the final authority.
But in reality, God never changed, only our perception of God did. Jesus came to
finally reveal God's true nature (as far as we are able to understand).
You may think that these "inconsistencies" render the Bible invalid; but to me it
reveals an in-progress and dynamic relationship with God. The Bible isn't perfect;
only God is.
-John
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) Gee, I think this was Tom's point -- at least in a a way. See? Your perspective is that the bible is a kind of source of authority, yet you are able to pick and choose elements from it because it is an "imperfect" source. With all kinds of (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| Let me take it from another perspective. YHWH, or God, really IS a God of war, but he's more than that. I see Jesus as the completer of the picture of God. That is, revelation is progressive. If you look at God's relationship with Noah, then (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) THE ENTIRE BIBLE is a collection of stories. It conflicts itself all over the place. I suppose you pull the standard dodges, and only pick what parts you agree with, and say they are true while the rest MUST be wrong? -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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