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(...) Hmm. I suppose it depends on what you mean by average. I assume you are just rating myself, and others, against your own above average intellect? Perception of intellect is an area which always exasperates me. I find that people mix these (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well I guess these are all good arguments for TLG to move their production facilities elsewhere. Though this may be sour for the people who will be layed off at the Enfield plant this is just another fine example of how globalisation takes its (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And yet, Bruce, if I said to you "there is a God who exists as revealed by Jesus of Nazareth", what would be your first response? Maybe you'd say, "that's nice for you, now run along and play" (oops, that's what *Lar* would say). But what if (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the understanding of God changed and matured through time in the OT. The early Israelites were polytheistic; they had to learn that there was only one god YHWH. YHWH was perceived as a war God. This is definitely inconsistent (in my (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If someone has a completely adequate understanding of theology, and remains agnostic or atheist, IMHO it is pointless to continually badger them about the reality of God. Ultimately belief relies on faith, an irrational attribute that should (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Mr. Marchetti: Concerning the problem of evil, you provided an outline of two arguments and then concluded: "But the point is: the Christian god cannot exist in the manner in which most Christians envision him to exist. Whatever he may or may not (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fair enough. (...) Dealt with that below. Not equivalent. (...) God didn't create Satan. He created Lucifer, who was His Archangel. Lucifer coveted God's position and wanted to be like God and receive man's worship. A third of God's angels (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Doesn't this depend on what you mean by "fit"? You can consider science and religion (or even the universe and God) to be like yin and yang, intertwined but clearly separable. Or you can think that science and religion are like colours of the (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not at all. The OT served it's purpose - according to Galations it's purpose was to lead us to Christ. The Law served as a vehicle to make manifest the condition of man. Jeremiah 31:31-34 opens the door for the NT which will supersede the Old. (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe you should stick to hanging about school crossings or drug rehab clinics. So non-believers are comparable to the drug-addicted and the immature, that's a fairly biased analogy. What if we compared Christians to schizophrenics, who hear (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I merely pointed out why people do what they do. I can't believe that by sharing motivations that I'm proselytizing. I'm not forcing anyone to agree with me. And, I, in no way, am telling someone even "how to" be a Christian. Help me out, how (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All the religious relics of the middle-ages. Eastern Orthodoxism. Protestantism. Reformation. Warrior knights. Pacifists. Rise and disappearance of saints. Mary cults. Seems to change a lot. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't say change with the times - rather that it doesn't stagnate. I guess you could define stagnation as you will, but there are many levels of learnign and debate within the Protestant and Catholic (to name but 2) parts of Christianity (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Every belief system is man-made, so it surprises me that the followers of any system can believe one is more valid than another. Maybe the Christian god is off setting up franchises on the other side of the universe. Weren't the gospels (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And THIS is where you should have ended the reply... (...) This makes me sick to my stomach, and furious, and I'm sure there are Christians who would agree with me. Shoving YOUR religion down someone else's throat when they don't want it is (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not intended against religion, though I'm intrigued that you read it that way. I was referring more to adherence to rote, like obeying the teachings of Aristotle in science without examining and verifying them. (...) That doesn't seem very (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, here I was mixing vehement and vemonous. :-) (...) Odd - no one bothered you to reply, yet you did. So who's leaving who alone? I actually like talking about what interests me - I though you did too. I didn't hijack the thread (that (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: (big snip) (...) Perhaps this is the crux of the divergence. You're saying that science focuses on reality - I agree, but how we each define "reality" is different. Reality for you is only the realm (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Vehement. So leave me alone already. This forum is not the time and not the place to prosetylise, a point you seem to be having difficulty grasping, and this thread was not started to discuss religion, so you're hijacking it. Knock it off. (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fit in one another's realm -Jon (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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