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Re: Critical Thinking
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Tue, 5 Dec 2000 00:11:25 GMT
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Jon Kozan wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
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> > When you (J. Random Christian) come up to me and say "I believe in God!", my
> > response will be "Well, I don't have that certainty, and your god seems
> > implausible, but that's nice, I am happy for you, everyone should have a
> > hobby, now run along". Your methods of arriving at conclusions are your
> > affair.
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> > When you come up to me and say "and so should YOU, Mr. A. G. Nostic", my
> > response is going to be "prove it in a manner that I accept, or buzz off. If
> > you want ME to accept something as true, I will use whatever mechanisms I
> > choose to validate it. Take it or leave it." In the end, though, no harm
> > done to you if I choose not to accept. I'm facing the consequences of my
> > actions.
> Larry - your vehemous defence of asking to be left alone is admirable indeed.
> And you are certainly correct in that you are facing the consequences of your
> actions - I will actually support your doing so.
And THIS is where you should have ended the reply...
> But I would ask you this - If
> you knew a friend was taking drugs, and you knew that it would eventually
> destroy and kill them - would you try and stop them? WOuld you get them help?
> Even if they just wanted to be left alone with their drugs? And just said
> "In the end, though, no harm done to you if I choose not to accept (your
> help) I'm facing the consequences of my actions. "
> Worse still - what if you saw a small child enter a busy street and say to you,
> "I'm just fine" "Leave me alone" "I deny the existance of those cars and you
> can't prove to me that they exist"... Would you ? Could you, do nothing?
> Those of us who accept God, also recognize that me force you to accept
> anything, but rather, will engage in discussions to attempt to explore your
> positions with you, and too - help you see the cars that we see.
This makes me sick to my stomach, and furious, and I'm sure there are Christians
who would agree with me.
Shoving YOUR religion down someone else's throat when they don't want it is just
sick. I see you for who you are now. I know what role you would have filled
during the Inquisition.
Saying you support his doing so, but then continuing on with the next sentence with
your proselytizing is disgusting.
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| (...) I merely pointed out why people do what they do. I can't believe that by sharing motivations that I'm proselytizing. I'm not forcing anyone to agree with me. And, I, in no way, am telling someone even "how to" be a Christian. Help me out, how (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Larry - your vehemous defence of asking to be left alone is admirable indeed. And you are certainly correct in that you are facing the consequences of your actions - I will actually support your doing so. But I would ask you this - If you knew (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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