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(...) Yes, but that was because minifigs, macrofigs, or any type of figs didn't exist then. At least for me. :-O (...) Here is the crux of the problem. The lack of diversity in minifigs IS a political message. You may agree with that message, you (...) (24 years ago, 11-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Lorbaat" <eric@nospam.thirteen.net> wrote in message news:Fz4qw1.FyI@lugnet.com... (...) draw (...) that (...) (for (...) Viable alternative. In all sincerity, I have watched LUGNET for the past few days be filled with what I feel is senseless (...) (24 years ago, 11-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No one in any argument here has suggested that skin color has any effect on a person's human-ness. (...) **snip of several recent, anecdotal examples** These are fine, of course, and it's great to see that Lego has opened its marketing to a (...) (24 years ago, 11-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A lot of people have said this, but I'd be interested to see them actually draw lines and point out these so-called "factions". There seem to be only two that really exist- those who are discussing something they find interesting (for whatever (...) (24 years ago, 11-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hey everybody... After reading a few of the highlights from the recent debates on adding different color minifigs into the Lego product line, I thought I'd offer a few words. I have a major concern with the discussions and the attitude portrayed. (...) (24 years ago, 11-Aug-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Racial politics in LEGO (Endless debates in LUGNET about race would be a good title too!)
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Yo nigga, what the deal? Just to clarify, I emailed Brad Justus a day or two ago and asked him if he might check out the thread that begins with "Who's feelin' the black pack?" when he's got the time. He's yet to reply, but rest assured that as soon (...) (24 years ago, 11-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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| | Re: Racial politics in LEGO (Endless debates in LUGNET about race would be a good title too!)
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Jason, (...) Usually, when I see this, it does mean it, but I digress, I am rather sick of this discussion to begin with. (...) I have little faith in reiterating this discussion about Lando and Panaka for the 5th, 6th, 7th, etc. time. I am sick to (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.starwars)
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(...) Umm, yeah. That would be it. And the minifigs are meant to represent the characters, the same way the actors did. Now, if someone re-makes "Star Wars" in 30 years, and they happen to make the controversial move of casting a black man as Han (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Since you were kind enough to point out that minifigs are not real people, I will return the favor by reminding you that everyone who provides the visualizations of Han, Leia, and Luke are in fact from Earth, and in any case you're missing my (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why? How do we know that Han Solo is white and Lando Calrissian is black? Just because that's the skin colors of Harrison Ford and Billy Dee Williams? (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) clearly (...) that (...) Hi, I'm out of town and this is likely to be my last access to the net until Monday or Tuesday, so I'm a bit behind. In backward order: It was not a subtle propoganda on my part, but now that it's pointed out, I think (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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First of all, Han, Leia and Luke represent... HAN, LEIA AND LUKE. Far as I can tell, Han is a Correllian; Leia, from Dantooine; Luke, from Tatooine. And that's just the PLANETS. If they happen to be "white," then so be it. Greedo happens to be (...) (24 years ago, 9-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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See (URL) -- Bryan "Christian Gemuenden" <gech1@t-online.de> wrote in message news:FyzF6B.DGA@lugnet.com... (...) When (...) new (...) it (...) (IIRC), (...) me (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi Bryan, I agree with you in many points. However, that's not the reason I reply. When I carefully read your posting, I fell over the following: (...) So, what excactly do you mean with: "the Statue of Liberty" ? Is that a new set or what? Well, of (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This originally started as an opinion piece on the recent events with the "the list." (I know I'm stepping up to my turn to beat the dead horse...) But in the end, this turned into a larger work that ends up touching on the state of the hobby. This (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Duane, I think you are right about everything you said earlier. I have had fun (Alot of fun in fact) debating this issue with you and I guess we should come to a closing. It's nice to have somebody that actually cares as much as I do about Lego. By (...) (24 years ago, 8-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) using (...) that (...) Still can't say I've ever heard the term albedo applied to skin tone. Probably because albedo derives from the latin albus meaning white (defining skin in terms of whiteness is something of a lost cause immediately). (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) oops :) well, spelling has never been my strong suit, but the term I was using is correct. I know what you meant by "value" and the technical measure of that aspect of skin tone is the albedo, ie: how much light it reflects vs how much is (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) use (...) and (...) Well Mikohly, (...) I don't understand the last sentence. What do you mean by "template"? Could you clarify it a little for me? (...) Who's insecure? I'm comfortable with the shoes I'm wearing. (...) Only the child will (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) to (...) to (...) Well you see Duane, what this conversation originally was pointing out was the distinguishment between guns and other objects. It would be great to have kids be able to create their own guns and stuff. I'm just saying that (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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