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Re: who's feelin the black pack?
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Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:51:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Karim Nassar writes:
In lugnet.starwars, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:

Can't say that I've ever heard of "skin albedo" (not albeido, by the
way).  "Value" in this sense is an artist's term for relative light and
dark.

oops :)  well, spelling has never been my strong suit, but the term I was • using
is correct.  I know what you meant by "value" and the technical measure of • that
aspect of skin tone is the albedo, ie: how much light it reflects vs how much
is absorbed.

Still can't say I've ever heard the term albedo applied to skin tone.
Probably because albedo derives from the latin albus meaning white (defining
skin in terms of whiteness is something of a lost cause immediately).


So, are you arguing that pale yellow is okay, or pale yellow is not okay? • One
arbitrary point on the pale end represents everyone?  Would one arbitrary
point on the dark end be acceptable to those of European descent?  Would we
see those of european descent making excuses for Lego if the latter was the
case, or wanting another color towards the pale end of the spectrum?

I'm saying that the concept of "race" is purely social, and that in this case
(an iconographic child's toy), any single given color is perfectly
representative of everyone.  If LEGO had started out using brown as the • minifig
color (or black or red or blue), I would not have a problem with that at all.

But I'm only refering to relative light and dark of the skin tone,
not "race".  One light tone simply does NOT fit all the world's people.  And
if Lego had chosen a dark tone, you may not object, but do you really believe
everyone else won't?  You'd be fooling yourself if you do.


As I said, my bet is that we won't see a Lando at all.

I agree.

--Karim



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  Re: who's feelin the black pack?
 
(...) oops :) well, spelling has never been my strong suit, but the term I was using is correct. I know what you meant by "value" and the technical measure of that aspect of skin tone is the albedo, ie: how much light it reflects vs how much is (...) (24 years ago, 7-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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