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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Shiri Dori writes: I give on the icecaps, ok? If they all melt at once, we're all going wading. You still have to show that they're all going to melt, though. Won't take much, a few degrees higher average temp should do (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which is enough to cover most of the coastal cities all over the world. (...) Well, I don't know exactly how many years. (...) I don't believe everything I read, no. I do believe researches that are well based on facts, yes. (...) Me too. (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Jeff is correct. See my last post(5623). For general information- scientists measure the amount of ice on the planet at a given time by looking at oxygen isotope ratio in deepsea sediment cores. ^16-O is selectively stored in ice over the (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) well, i didn't do the math but some other researchers have: (URL) maximum sea-level rise from the complete melting of these bodies of ice would be about 264 feet- that's about flooding times 13 by your definition above. There has be a lot of (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's why I put the "might" up there. We are in agreement. (...) That's why I said we need to search out alternatives before we are faced with such a choice. But then again, I'm sick of the Florida Hurricanes winning the NCAA title all the (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The panderer's the one with the fundraising problems, while the idiot is the one with the misperceptions regarding social issues. Does that clear it up? 8^) Dave! followups to OT-Fun (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm sure (well, as sure as I can be with no real evidence, so take this to mean that it seems exremely likely) that sexuality is controlled both by genetic and environmental factors. I guess the way I named the "weak abstinence gene" it (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Should? (...) Uh? increased funding of anything requires more money...right? So the money either comes from increased revenues (taxes) or by taking it from other government programs. Where do you think it should come from? (...) of (...) (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is a good point that hasn't been discussed much here. The likelihood of progress should go into the cost-benefit analysis. OTOH, if the techniques developped for Polio worked for HIV, it'd be under control by now, right? Since that's not (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I could just say something like "so, I don't care about people in the other parts of the world." But that would make me heartless. Let me revise what I said to be limited to those in the US. I'd wager that even those in the US going to (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) IF changing them will make a difference, and IF it's worth the price. I'd vote for letting Florida flood, if it came to that, before I voted to give up electricity and antibiotics. When thinking about the global climate engine and our impact I (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) We're veering around, I think Mike and Ed and I are sparring about the US, where it's pretty hard to ignore the truth about how to catch it at this point, it being common knowledge. There may be remote parts of the world that haven't figured (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) a (...) Half or so of Australia was under water at one point. Admittedly, Australia is pretty darn flat. I'd also be pretty nervous about the long-term land prices in Florida. The geologic record is pretty clear that major flooding happens. (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) a (...) Au Contraire: "If larger ice sheets begin to recede, sea level could rise rapidly and dramatically. The most vulnerable ice sheet is the marine-based West Antarctic Ice Sheet which contains enough water locked up as ice to raise global (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I am genuinely curious: How can you be so sure that everyone in the world knows about this? Have you seen a report that stated every school district in the world teaches safe sex? And even if they do, what about private/religious schools, or (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm sorry, Ed, but I graduated from high school in 1988, that's 12 years ago. We knew then, in what you would probably call a backwater southern city (Nashville), that unprotected sex could end up killing you. So, imo and in my experience, (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ice (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ice (...) Oh please. Do the math. To me, "flooding" means a change in sea level of 20 feet or so. That's not going to happen. There isn't enough ice even if both icecaps melted down to nothing. The apocalyptic visions of the gloom and doom (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Global Warming (was: Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
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(...) Does it matter why? There is a global warming going in as we speak. There is a very fair chance that in a few years, the icecaps will melt and all the major coast cities (NYC, Boston, LA, SF, need I continue?) will be flooded. Does it really (...) (24 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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