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(...) That's an awfully tall order, considering that we have billions of years of instinctual programming to overcome. (...) I.E. The Ugly and Unpopular will inherit the earth... ;) Jeff (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure - is that a straw man or a red herring? But I'll comment on it anyway. People don't choose to get old. People choose to have unprotected sex, of whatever kind. People choose to share needles. Is there another major way that people (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How fortunate for you. I can think of 25 off the top of my head, but in actuality, its more like 75 that I personally knew. Of the first friends (20+) we made when we moved to NYC in 1982, there are four - FOUR - of us still alive. (...) I (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The destablization of countries not a threat to US National Security? The loss of a quarter of a country's workforce would destroy its economy. This could damage the economy of neighboring countries or those that back them financially. With (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) and (...) Thomas Jefferson said it in his innaugural address in 1801. (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In Australia, the number of newly infected has actually levelled out. Not sure if it was the education campaign that was aimed at the general population on prime-time TV here in the mid-eighties. (...) vector (...) organism (...) There are (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Then, (...) will (...) A logical argument to Larry's point. Plagues have a habit of overthrowing society. It's also a real possibility, of course, though not necessarily a probable one. Certainly not probable on a large enough scale to pose a (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you suggesting this as a real possibility, or as a logical argument to Larry's point? Chris (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are there any population ecologists out there? Could it be that when there gets to be too many of a given organism in a localle, and predation isn't taking care of it, diseases become a likely vector for population control. Maybe (if AIDS (...) (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Unless, of course, widespread plague causes civilization to break down. Then, the ones who listen to the education *and* successfully dodge the bullets will survive. Witness what happened to the Jews during the Black Plague. Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 9-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean something like "honest friendship with all who seek it, entangling alliances with none"? Now, who said that? ++Lar (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The ones who listen to the education and change their habits will live and those who don't won't. Heartlessly simple, but then, that's evolution in action for you... It will only take a few generations. In geological time, that's "shortly". (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Several things are concurrently happening. Some of them are dying. Such an alarming number of them are sick, that their broken social system that has thus far not provided a socially acceptable method of teaching basic health and safty topic (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, I should have added to my post(s) that I do not support the giving/using of life-prolonging drugs that would result in the situation Tom just described above. (thought about when i started to write and promptly forgot about it :/ ). (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why does my own priorities about how my tax money should be spent have to do with whether or not I "care" about those people? Do I think its too bad that that many people get AIDS and will more than likely die from it? Yeah, I do. I also think (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) How can you say how much I care or not? I didn't address my personal caring for those people, I made a statement about how they rate in my priority system when I'm thinking about how I'd like for my government to spend the money it takes from (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What leads you to think that? The infected people are not all dying very soon. Some (many) of them do not know they are infected, and many of them do not know how to prevent transmitting HIV. They will continue to pass it on, and probably for (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) heard (...) As I understand it, infection by the father isn't transmitted via conception at all. And, for reasons somewhat unknown, HIV infected mothers frequently produce babies without infection. So, your premis isn't correct. (...) But even (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This is somewhat rambling, but here goes... (...) But it doesn't HAVE to go on - all you have to do is force the damned idea through their heads that SEX (and sharing needles) CAN KILL, so either stay monogamous, or use condoms, or just use your own (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Whoa, now wait just a minute. The US a CAUSE, simply because "action" (i.e. public money used to help develop drugs that the Private drug companies are profiting from) wasn't taken fast enough? Think that statement through a bit more. Africa (...) (24 years ago, 8-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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