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(...) Sorry--I posted before "refreshing" my browser, so I didn't see that you had already replied... Dave! (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) However, was every other parent who remained in East Germany a likewise unfit parent? This again seems too sweeping a claim, generalizing everyone under one circumstantial banner. That said, the fact of your uncle’s brainwashing is dreadful. I (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) properly (...) Add "deluded" to the list and I will go with yes. It's that simple. (...) It's grand standing but it's not circular, based on your statement about preconceived notions. The gist of that was that you seemed to be in denial about (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Let me connect the dots for you. Arguably, Elian's mother would have been better served if she could have flown from Cuba to FL in a commercial airliner. Or even taken a large passenger liner, or in extremis, a 50 foot fishing trawler. But (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) her (...) That was me, and yes, I feel the attempt was particularly ill-prepared (i.e. the actual attempt was so doomed to ultimate failure it was literally terminally stupid). Perhaps this is a reflection of my deep respect for the open (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just a minor nitpick, but if you're going to speak up in defense of Canada, you could at least do us the courtesy of capitalizing, neh? <xf-ut: off-topic.debate> James (URL) getting paid for this --> alladvantage.com Sign up via me, the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) **snip of a few undeniable truths about Cuba** My question remains, though: are we to assume that anyone who chooses to remain in such a country must necessarily be either deceitful (spelled properly this time, unlike my last post!), under (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, can you clear up for me what preconceptions you're referring to? There is hard documented evidence in profuse quantities that, for example, psychiatry is viewed as an arm of the ministry of the interior (that is, the secret police) and (...) (24 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) repercussions of his defection, it might *seem* as though he doesn't want to (...) Undoubtedly! But that's still an assumption based on preconceptions of the communist state, rather than on any evidence relevant to the case at hand. Dave! (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, when he has relatives back in Cuba who would have to face the repercussions of his defection, it might *seem* as though he doesn't want to leave Cuba. I'd say he's in a tough spot. -John <snip> (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The legal rulings do get confusing, don't they? My understanding is that the ruling to hand over the child was valid and no temporary restraining order was in effect (or perhaps in effect by a sufficiently high enough court). (...) Now Larry, (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All murderous issues aside, isn't her "quivering lip" due to her Parkinson's as opposed to some affected emotionalism? (...) This seems to presume that parents in a communist state must either be decietful or under duress to wish to remain in (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There appear to be conflicting court orders in effect, as there is also a ruling in effect that Elian can apply for asylum in his own right and that the guardianship is valid. Or that's my understanding. (...) Andre Marrou. John Bergland. Ron (...) (24 years ago, 26-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The "family" was forcibly detaining Elian against court orders from being reunited with his father. Why they aren't in jail is beyond me. (...) Find me a (living) politician who is! :-) (...) Nope. They were just continually stalling. But (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why I can't say I really support the way Elian was removed from his great-uncles house and reunited with his father, I don't think there were many other options considering the number of protestors that were usually around the house. However, (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Good morning, Scott Costello schreef: (...) So, someone sinned and now you want it to so either ? (...) Like you stated but Im not surprised at all, you Americans can make an fuss out of everything and always do things to surprise us Europeans. So (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I totally agree Scott - when I saw the pic of this on the front page of the paper yesterday I was horrified. What are these people thinking of? That poor kid is likely to be scarred for life. "Best interests of the child" indeed! Kevin (24 years ago, 25-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Alright I know that this may not be the proper forum for this discussion, but I wanted to vent my concerns to someone, and after the extensive anti-Mormon thread I figured what the heck. (I will endure any flame because of it). I must say that I am (...) (24 years ago, 25-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Why was this followed up to debate? I don't see anything controversial! :-) Seems like good elaboration for the FAQ. ++Lar (24 years ago, 25-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) a (...) If you haven't already, read "What Color is Your Parachute". A great book of practical advice on job-hunting. Bruce (24 years ago, 24-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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