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  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) Not so at all. I'd just use a dialup account (plenty of bandwidth to deal with the discussion traffic) at one or several major ISPs. I don't think Todd wants to break Earthlink or AOL access for all of Boston. (...) Spoofing IPs probably (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian theory and altruism (was: some incorrectly spelled thing not worth repeating
 
(...) Well, no. I believe that I can demonstrate why a collective will always fail, no matter how different the system, unless you can repeal cause and effect. (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) Subsidies have a place if you are of the opinion that it is in the National Interest to be selfsufficient to a degree in food. In a sense, farming subsidies are a part of National Defense. Jasper (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian theory and altruism (was: some incorrectly spelled thing not worth repeating
 
Reordered things a bit... (...) So you agree that all of the below are laudable goals, then? Great. Let's talk more about what they mean and what sort of system would be needed to foster them. (...) No tax EVER and the common law (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thread Nazis! (was Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party)
 
(...) Consider this; perhaps it will help placate the pendant in you: the Nazi-thread-death convention is not Godwin's Law, merely derived from it. And as a tradition, it's often been that bringing Nazis into your argument in any way is grounds for (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) IPblocking such a thing would not block very many legitimate users. Unless you start doing things like spoofing IPs (which can be detected at a firewall level), morphing ISP accounts, etc.etc. Come to think of it, IPblocking of spoofed packets (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Thread Nazis! (was Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party)
 
(...) Some claim so. I disagree. Sometimes I'm a pedant. Jasper (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) I think you could well be right. (...) I guess that's why I don't have much respect for lawyers ;=> (...) Drive-by isn't the word. Running around "Clue" manor with guns and trying to have a duel, more like. Jasper (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian theory and altruism (was: some incorrectly spelled thing not worth repeating
 
(...) [snip] (...) This is what disturbs me about libertarian theory. It seems just as idealistic as socialist theory. If the system were totally different, worker-owned collectives would work wonderfully as a way to organize the world. But it (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian theory and altruism (was: some incorrectly spelled thing not worth repeating
 
(...) Definately agreed on what would be nice - but although Libertarianism might achieve this, I don't believe that it's the only way! Richard (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) I stepped back a bit, and I suspect that what is frustrating both of us, leading to perhaps less well reasoned posts than normal on one or both sides, is that we're trying to discuss several things at once. Perhaps we should pick one topic, (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Thread Nazis! (was Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party)
 
(...) Using an example/hyperbole involving the Nazis probably counts though. (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Libertarian theory and altruism (was: some incorrectly spelled thing not worth repeating
 
(...) I'm glad that you agree with me that it's not altruism per se that is required. In turn, I agree with you on what IS required. Long term thinking. That seems to be in rather short (1) supply these days. Companies today in this particular mixed (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian stuff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) Maybe.. AFAIK Libertarian policy on education is to remove the burden of school taxes from those not responsible for the education of children. This would leave the education system with substantially less income, to supplement this, there (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) Hey look, me too. (Anyone surprised?) Interesting the web version of this quiz is slightly different from the one I got off of Freshmeat (ported to Unix by Eric Raymond...). That version makes some of the questions be very loaded (to the point (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) Wouldn't be without his knowledge. He'd just be powerless to stop it without blocking large numbers of legitimate users. Not that I'm advocating such a thing in any way. (...) Yes that's again true. (...) This is a different topic entirely of (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libitarian guff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) No, it requires people and corporations to look into the future, evaluate long-term benefits vs short-term costs, and then make the right decision. Since all/most companies always do that, how come Y2K preparedness rose so sharply over the (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Swearing?
 
(...) Yup. I agree. The problem is, when does something have a victim? For adults this quite clear -- only when there is not consent. For non-adults, this gets very blurry very fast. Does a photographer have the right to publish a photograph of, (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libitarian guff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) Fortunately, Libertarian theory doesn't require ANYONE to be altruistic, although I can't speak for libitarian guff, whatever that is. (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libitarian guff (Was: Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?])
 
(...) Urgh! *shudder of fear* Taxes don't seem so bad when the alternative is hoping that corperations suddenly become altruistic towards society. (...) Well I could be totally squiffy... it's happened before you know :) Richard (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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