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Subject: 
Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:57:18 GMT
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Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote:
IPblocking such a thing would not block very many legitimate users.

Not so at all. I'd just use a dialup account (plenty of bandwidth to deal
with the discussion traffic) at one or several major ISPs. I don't think
Todd wants to break Earthlink or AOL access for all of Boston.


Unless you start doing things like spoofing IPs (which can be detected
at a firewall level), morphing ISP accounts, etc.etc.

Spoofing IPs probably wouldn't work, 'cause you actually need to see the
responses.

Yes that's again true.
And I would argue that they are what makes lugnet lugnet.

Probably.

I think we may be diverging again - a single-point-of-hardware-failure
is a bad thing, yes, but I wouldn't want to see something that could
operate on without Todd's consent. There simply needs to be an iron
fist when necessary.

Well, consider the possiblity of Todd shutting down LUGnet over the
potential appearance of copyright violation in the linking-to-Lego's-site
Y2K set issue a little bit ago. I'd suggest that Todd only felt compelled to
do so exactly because of it being totally under his control. I don't think
that if the same information had been posted to, say, RTL, he woulda been
clamoring for Usenet to be shut down until things were sorted out.

--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/



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  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) If one must. I also think you'd have the lawyers sicced on you. Things like this are blatantly illegal. As added protection, Todd could make the NNTP connections password-protected (fairly easily, even, technically). In which case you'd need (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) Oh, definitely. That wasn't the point at all. If I still remember the original point of this. :) (...) For the record, I totally agree and sympathize with Todd's decision to run things the way he currently is. There are clear and definite (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
 
(...) IPblocking such a thing would not block very many legitimate users. Unless you start doing things like spoofing IPs (which can be detected at a firewall level), morphing ISP accounts, etc.etc. Come to think of it, IPblocking of spoofed packets (...) (24 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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