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Re: Art Debate Was: [Re: Swearing?]
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Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:57:40 GMT
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:08:45 GMT, mattdm@mattdm.org (Matthew Miller)
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> Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote:
> > Yes. But doing so without Todd's knowledge, _while keeping it up tom
> > date_, is next to impossible.
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> Wouldn't be without his knowledge. He'd just be powerless to stop it without
> blocking large numbers of legitimate users. Not that I'm advocating such a
> thing in any way.
IPblocking such a thing would not block very many legitimate users.
Unless you start doing things like spoofing IPs (which can be detected
at a firewall level), morphing ISP accounts, etc.etc.
Come to think of it, IPblocking of spoofed packets would require root
- which Todd don't have.
> > Then there is the fact that by far not everything in lugnet is public
> > - the CGI and other various bits-o-script holding the thing together aren't
> > publically available.
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> Yes that's again true.
And I would argue that they are what makes lugnet lugnet.
> > A constantly updated copy of the original would be essentially a
> > mirror - and assuming that you copy the ability to post as well, and
> > gateway both ways, it might actually make sense to do something like
> > that, someday. With Todd's consent, of course.
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> This is a different topic entirely of course. It certainly would be
> possible, and something I'd really like to see. Not that I think Todd is
> doing a bad job, but I don't like the single-point-of-failure thing.
I think we may be diverging again - a single-point-of-hardware-failure
is a bad thing, yes, but I wouldn't want to see something that could
operate on without Todd's consent. There simply needs to be an iron
fist when necessary.
Jasper
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| (...) Not so at all. I'd just use a dialup account (plenty of bandwidth to deal with the discussion traffic) at one or several major ISPs. I don't think Todd wants to break Earthlink or AOL access for all of Boston. (...) Spoofing IPs probably (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Wouldn't be without his knowledge. He'd just be powerless to stop it without blocking large numbers of legitimate users. Not that I'm advocating such a thing in any way. (...) Yes that's again true. (...) This is a different topic entirely of (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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