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Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
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Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:52:17 GMT
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 04:32:22 GMT, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net>
wrote:

But right now we're bouncing around on too many different threads.

I think you could well be right.

All I can suggest there is an analogy, and not a very good one. When a
defense lawyer makes his argument, he may well say "my client didn't do
it.. first, he wasn't there that day, second he doesn't have a gun, and
third, actually it was someone else that pulled the trigger although he
was in the room and it was his gun."...

I guess that's why I don't have much respect for lawyers ;=>

So when I say something is flawed on a utilitarian basis, it doesn't
mean that utilitarianism is my preferred refutatory, it merely means
(perhaps, regrettably, I am jumping around too much) that I am trying to
work at the level of the person who advanced the argument. If I can both
defeat it on a utilitarian basis AND show that rights are being violated
that don't need to be, it's a stronger counter. Although I admit it is
more confusing to the drive by reader.

Drive-by isn't the word. Running around "Clue" manor with guns and
trying to have a duel, more like.

Jasper



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  Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
 
(...) I stepped back a bit, and I suspect that what is frustrating both of us, leading to perhaps less well reasoned posts than normal on one or both sides, is that we're trying to discuss several things at once. Perhaps we should pick one topic, (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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