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(...) What restitution would you suggest for causing an accident that killed someone? Maybe I'm not being creative enough, but the person's already dead. Wouldn't the goal be making sure this person _never_ does the same thing again, and that as (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Let's Party!" -Dionysus Though I suspect you meant Jehovah... ;-) -->Bruce<-- Green-Eyed Devil's Advocate (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Things that are clearly wrong are those things that clearly harm others. Like abuse and neglect of children. Not like consensual sexual activities. Homosexuality isn't right because it's part of society, it's right because no one is harmed. (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tell me this: Is an action "right" because God says so, or is it "right" regardless of what God says? If the former, then it's an arbitrary moral system. If the latter, then God is subordinate to morality and therefore he's not supreme. (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Perfect example of how laws have changed as regards to murder. At one time, it was acceptable to offer a duel to a party who insulted you. If one or the other of you died (was murdered), there was no criminal penalty. Both of you went into it (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not actually sure what happened. (...) What exactly did God say? Not being perfect, yourself, how do you know He said it instead of some guy with a pen? (...) Without questioning what you BELIEVE God thinks or wants, and knowing that you (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) reality, my good friend, does not always determine what is right and what is wrong. needless to say my children will know about the "reality" of homosexuality sooner than i ever did. but to say that, "homosexuality, kids, is a part of society (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Let me likewise then throw everything on the table-- I'm a Christian. I believe that God created the heavens and the earth. I believe that humanity, as stated in Genesis, was put here to be stewards of the planet and, when we get out there, (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I beg your pardon? Do you actually hate these actions when performed by a child? That strikes me as a dangerous lack of self-control on the part of a parent. Wall-writing, diaper-pooping, and flu-getting are parts of being a child; a person (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) This "stay the course" attitude is laudable in some circles but is rightly recognized as irrational stubbornness by others. Can you conceive of any circumstance that would cause you to modify your views? Can you imagine any circumstance under (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Nope. Even when I was that young, if they would have hit me with a ruler, I probably would have yanked it out of their hand and beat them back. Up until senior year in HS, I was always a bit large for my age ;-) And my parents, while probably (...) (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) alright, let me throw everything out on the table: i am a Christian conservative. i am pro-family (that is marriage between a man and a woman), pro-life (the right for an unborn, helpless child to live), and i adhere to the best of my ability (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sir, I see from your post that you have a child. Consider this: According to your reasoning, parents (you) must hate their (your) children because they are disobedient, poop in their diapers, write on the walls, and get the flu at the most (...) (20 years ago, 24-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hello! (...) So at least you are against Death Penalty. Nice to hear that! Bye Jojo (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) ROFL! (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Did that include beating your hands with a ruler if you wrote with your left hand, Tom? That's what happened to my bf, who is left handed but still writes (very slowly and badly) with his right. Kevin (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's exactly what I mean. Maybe it's not even your parents' fault. I'm willing to give that. Maybe they just didn't know better -- and now you don't. But it's still wrong. And raising kids, teaching them untruth as if it were truth, is (...) (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Then you've been lucky not to have been exposed to reality, since you have been given such an inadequate set of tools for dealing with it. If you are in a position to save either one innocent person or a pair of innocent people from certain (...) (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Idunno about you, but clearly the skeletons in your closet have come out. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) i actually grew up in a loving environment that taught me that right and wrong are absolutes and nothing is relative. believing that has kept me out of trouble many times. And I didn't say you were (...) on the contrary--i'm not talking about (...) (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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