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Re: Why these news groups were created
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:24:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jason Coronado wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
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Look Jason, I can’t help it that you’re wrong. I can’t help it that you
grew up in an abusive (if only mildly) environment.
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i actually grew up in a loving environment that taught me that right and
wrong are absolutes and nothing is relative.
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That’s exactly what I mean. Maybe it’s not even your parents’ fault. I’m
willing to give that. Maybe they just didn’t know better -- and now you don’t.
But it’s still wrong. And raising kids, teaching them untruth as if it were
truth, is abusive. Not the kind of abuse that makes it impossible for you to
relate to others. Not the kind of abuse that keeps you from holding a job. But
that’s why I called it mild. And unless you are helped, you will presumably
pass that misunderstanding along to your own kids (or already have).
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You’re talking about intolerance toward people who are doing no harm
to you or anyone else.
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on the contrary--i’m not talking about intolerance toward people, i’m talking
about intolerance toward homosexuality. i do not hate homosexuals. i merely
hate the idea of it. i believe that homosexuality is wrong.
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So this “hatred” of homosexuality doesn’t color the way you treat homosexuals at
all? Come on! No one else buys that, how could you? Look, I hate
victimizers. I admit it. And hell yes, it affects the way I treat them. I try
to always remember that they themselves were victims but there’s this little
immature part of me that is glad when they “get what’s coming.” And on the rare
occasions that I have found myself in a position of having to deal with them
first hand, my feelings about them certainly colored my treatment of them.
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if that labels me as a biggot, then i’ll have to live with that.
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But the point is, you shouldn’t have to live with it. With a little work --
maybe some counselling, or homosexual experimentation, you could get over your
irrational hatred. Think how much healthier you could be without this spite
gnawing away at your insides!
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what bothers me is that
not only are homosexuals trying to get the world to accept them, they are
practically shoving their lifestyle down our throats.
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You know, they can only do what they can do. The idea is that with enough
exposure, eventually the rest of us will sit up and notice that they’re just
people too. Doing their own thing, not hurting anyone. If they are gregarious
about their sexual prefence it is in reaction to the stifling environment that
we have engineered for them. Only we can make it so they don’t have to act
that way anymore.
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i go back to my
original point of this whole thing: WHAT DOES LEGO HAVE TO DO WITH
HOMOSEXUALITY?
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Sexuality is an integral part of every human endevour. It is the single most
important motivator for life. Everything we do is colored by a sexual lense.
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why must they (you--or whatever) bring homosexuality into
every part of our lives? i see it in magazines, t.v., movies, books,
newspapers.
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Specifically, because, as we return to my first note to you, you need the
exposure. Before they will be treated fairly in our society, the irrational
malice that YOU bear toward their lifestyle must be rooted out and destroyed.
And they don’t have any other tools with which to attempt this correction.
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IT DOESN”T BELONG IN A LEGO NEWSGROUP!
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It does! It belongs everywhere. Because there’s nothing wrong with it. The
very fact of your discomfort it the problem, not the solution.
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i don’t talk about heterosexual things here,
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Really? You’ve never mentioned your wife or girlfriend or whatever? Or how
about your mother and father? Have you ever depicted a minifig couple in a MOC?
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so why do you have to talk about homosexual things?
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A) Because you’re wrong -- there is a great deal of heterosexual discussion
going on here all the time. B) Because it doesn’t harm anyone. C) Because you
need it as therapy.
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kids read this stuff, so why do we have to bring up sex at all (and don’t
tell me homosexuality is not about sex, because it is).
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Homosexuality is exactly as much about sex as heterosexuality is. Which is to
say, sex is a pretty important topic to everyone. And that’s good! Sex rocks.
And it’s OK for kids to know it. All of these love/sex/bonding issues are
healthy things for kids and adults to consider and discuss.
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you have got to be kidding me: “without interference, hassle, and
judgement?” the homosexual agenda uses the media to force its views on
society.
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Only to the extent that they want to be interference-, hassle-, and
judgement-free. And why shouldn’t their veiws be “forced on society?”
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it permeates throughout my home because of the media--i call that
interference and hassle and i don’t want my children to think that
homosexuality is o.k.
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See, now we’re back to abuse. You don’t even understand how deeply depraved
that is. Your kids should think homosexuality is OK, because it is. And so
should you. And until you (and they) do, this assault on the media needs to
continue.
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i also believe that homosexuality is not perfectly
natural, but a perversion of a natural and beautiful thing that GOD created
to exist between a man and a woman through marriage.
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Right, I know others with that misunderstanding. But your ignorance can not be
allowed to exist unchecked. There is a huge body of evidence to suggest that
you’re simply wrong and not one shred or scrap to support your side. That means
that the only reasonable conclusion is that you are being willfully ignorant and
harmful. That’s why I think it is not only acceptable but the only correct
choice to re-educate you and yours.
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and being labeled a
“biggot” because i don’t agree with you or this whole “lavender brick” issue
is being judgemental as well.
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But I’m not trying to judge a final verdict. I’m trying to help you overcome a
weakness. I’m not judging you evil or an abomination before God. I’m judging
you “not quite there, yet -- and needing help.”
Chris
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| (...) i actually grew up in a loving environment that taught me that right and wrong are absolutes and nothing is relative. believing that has kept me out of trouble many times. And I didn't say you were (...) on the contrary--i'm not talking about (...) (20 years ago, 23-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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