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(...) You are deliberately misinterpreting the Bill of Rights. Of course that Amendment had nothing to do with the concept of marriage. (...) The definition of marriage is the union of one man and one women. NO gay person is excluded from entering (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Oh my god, Larry. That was beautiful. Perhaps the single best post I've read in OTD ever. -lenny (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Sure, IRL, but I was speaking theoretically, as I believe were the FF. Merely because someone is able to oppress me and take away my rights doesn't justify it. (...) That is precisely why I claim they are divinely-endowed, so that no one has (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No bet unless you're offering mighty attractive odds (say "lottery" odds of 1:1M or better... say, my single 1x1 red brick with eye printed on it against your entire collection). Clinton's blamable for bin Laden still being out there, he had (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'll cite the Bill of Rights to the US Constitution. You even know the amendment... it's the one that discusses the right of citizens to associate (or not) as they choose. Then I'll cite contract law in general. People can enter into (or not (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) All I am asking is upon what do you believe our society is based. If you think it is a myriad of things, fine. What are they? (...) Upon what exactly do you base your assertion? (...) What I mean is that you are asserting things for which you (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You might find this (URL) site> amusing, in its discussions of why and how US involvement in WWI, WWII and WWIII was orchestrated. I had a learned friend of mine ernestly suggesting that the US administration had had a plan to join in WWII (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Um, these rights are already very easy to take away. George W. Bush has, for example, taken them away from a whole bunch of people, both as Governor and as President, both here and abroad. Is Dubya so powerful that he can supplant the Will of (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Holy crap, I just found (URL) It's viewable for free, but registration will apparently be required before long. Here's the salient bit: The unidentified detainee, believed to be a leader of the outlawed Ansar al Islam group, was held without (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think I know why. The stakes are so much higher now that it is too horrifying to accept. Most people I know, as far as I can figure, simply refuse to believe that President Bush was lying to us the whole time to gain approval to pursue his (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) 8^( No, alas. I guess it would have been more precise to say "legitimately" instead of "simply." Dave! (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Wanna bet? Chris (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Not surprisingly, Dubya is still (URL) clinging> to his "admit no error policy." Here are a few lies of omission worth noting: "This administration never said that the 9-11 attacks were orchestrated between Saddam and al-Qaida," he said. Even (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You're blurring the issue. The Bush administration made and continues to make claims and accusations regarding the "known" ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda, and those claims were used to justify the war that has resulted in over 800 American (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Not exactly two people you'd expect to be getting along so well. (URL) interesting interview whether you agree or disagree with either or both ... (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Parsons wrote: (...) Whatever. I simply dug up the link because Dave's original post mentioned it and then immediately dismissed it with a somewhat misleading comment. With that link you and others are now (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) All media is biased in some way. And you're right, it's a problem that folks like yourself can't seem to see that. Anyhow, the point that I seem unable to make is that simply reprinting it adds nothing. It merely serves as propaganda. No doubt (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hard to see this as simply counter-spin. Indeed, its a bit light on for spin at all. It is a grave concern when folks can't seperate the spin from the facts. Its like treating the various newspapers in Don's other post (which for the most part (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey thanks, I never heard of a freeper before, but google has. Here's the top link from a list on the yipping ground. (URL) it does point to a freeper page, the page itself contains many quotes from various international newspapers. Are you (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I saw that report on CNN on the "Politics" page and right on the side bar was another 'report' stating that Dubya still believes the link was there. I was also at the Freepers yipping ground today and one guy had a whole list of links to (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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