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Re: 9/11 Panel: No Evidence Connecting Iraq to Al Qaeda
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Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:36:51 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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It’s also funny that Clinton is still ridiculed for discussing the meaning
of is as it pertained to a legal extramarital affair between two adults,
but no one in the media is complaining about Dubya’s wholesale manipulation
of language.
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I think I know why. The stakes are so much higher now that it is too
horrifying to accept. Most people I know, as far as I can figure, simply
refuse to believe that President Bush was lying to us the whole time to gain
approval to pursue his own agenda. I think that with all the lives that have
been lost, many people are just unwilling to accept the evidence. When it
was Clinton, nothing but self-respect was at stake.
I’m not interested in making fun of ‘the masses’ for this. I think it’s a
fascinating social phenomenon. It seems like you can point to most of our
wars and see similar acceptance. I wonder how this played out with
Vietnam...anyone out there old enough to discuss it (I was born a few months
after my dad was drafted).
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You might find this site
amusing, in its discussions of why and how US involvement in WWI, WWII and WWIII
was orchestrated.
I had a learned friend of mine ernestly suggesting that the US administration
had had a plan to join in WWII predating the rhetoric about staying clear, and
baiting Germany and Japan into an overtly predatory strike in order to enlist
public opinion. I had exactly the reaction you’re talking about (wait a minute,
many lives were at stake, I cannot accept that they would have been prepared to
do this). I have become so sceptical of the modern spin and lies that I was
prepared to accept it of statesmen of the present, but not of the past. On
reflection over the weekend, I started to wonder whether it was not just my
enthusiasm for the lessons of the past that was leaving me more accepting of
less nefarious intentions of the leaders of the past, and that the spin and lies
were just not as overt, nor open to such review as now. Research ensues, and
turns up, among other things this site.
I don’t know enough about it yet to know how to judge it as a source, but
regardless, its a fine example of the conspiracy theory art. The few references
that I have so far checked have come up roses.
Richard
Still baldly going...
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