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(...) So here I am, in the mood for some sort of new .siggy quotation, and lo and behold, one just pops into my lap! (top) Dave K "If God wanted man to think, He would have given him a brain." -BS (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "If God wanted man to think, He would have given him a brain." -B.Schlickbernd -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | Reasonable offerings of aid (was Re: Blank checks drawn upon the US)
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(...) Well, I reject that framing of the issue--there's no need to assume that there's a tit-for-tat arrangement. Why must there be? My assumption (with which you are free to disagree, of course) is that the entire system is improved if the good of (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'd prefer to hope that things remain "peachy" for Larry. But I suppose what you are saying is that peachy-ness (like happiness) is a relative term, and that Larry does not know how "peachy" he is? (...) (That's if Jesus was the Suffering (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But do you see how that's an unsatisfactory answer? If Larry's life turns non-peachy, then you would claim that your point is proven. But if Larry's life does not turn non-peachy, then you would claim that your point is not disproven. Your (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) How else can you convince them that they are wrong? Education (for all) is the key! Scott A (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hmm. Did they not have a tendency to start fires, and then charge to put them out? Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm glad that you have had a blessed life. Chances are that one day things won't always look so peachy, answers won't come so easily, and fates won't be accepted so readily. (...) It is my understanding that God doesn't value "logic" much-- (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You are? Well, dwelling without him is pretty peachy, if you ask me. So then, sorry to hear you're having such a rough time with him. (logically if I'm not miserable then you're not wonderful) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Why? Who placed this obligation on us and what was gained in exchange? (...) Why? (...) Why? What if they are convinced that blue mud is the cure for AIDS (c.f. South Africa right about now) when we know for sure it isn't? (...) Why? Why (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm not getting the joke. :-) I use government services reluctantly but if I *paid* for them already (willingly or not) and there aren't any alternatives (usually because bad money drives out good, or because the government forces a monopoly) (...) (20 years ago, 22-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I guess I'd say that I believe only in those things for which there is empirical evidence or which can, in principle, be proven. As far as a devout scientist is concerned, I say go right ahead! I would, however, offer that IMO the devout (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, I am not advocating a tyrany of the majority, I'm saying that is the practical outcome. It recognizing what the difference between what you might want, and what you get. -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) These deaths made the news here too. It's a pity the media did not give the same coverage to the infant deaths caused by sanctions... (...) It is pretty clear now that it was silly of Rumseld to disband the Iraqi army and police... and leave (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not with a big bell around his neck he won't! (...) Good point! We'll just have to tell the media it'd be "unpatriotic" to do otherwise. ;) I forgot No. 9: Make those who have benefited form the occupation (Bush’s corporate buddies) compensate (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The examples of the things we have right are theories-- the examples of things we don't are specifics in trying to apply those theories. Of course we aren't perfect, but we have the perfect blueprint of government-- namely Freedom and (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes. Do you claim to only believe in things that are provable? In the final analysis, what would you say about a devout scientist who believed in God? Is he/she compromised as a scientific thinker? (...) Yes, but I'm curious. There are so many (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I wasn't really addressing your claim of whether we have it right or not. We do have some things right (democracy, freedom of the press, separation of church and state, freedom to move, freedom to leave) most of the time, and there are some (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It isn't the height of arrogance to claim that anymore than it is the height of arrogance to claim we don't have it right. That is -->Bruce<--'s point. That is also the problem with moral relativism, but I digress. Getting back to "we've got (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm sure he'll go AWOL and work on somebody's political campaign. ;-) (...) Can't and shouldn't tell the media what to write - he would simply need to direct them to the unemployment line (but I understand the sentiment). (...) Yup. (...) As (...) (20 years ago, 21-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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