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  Powerpoint rots your brain
 
What if Honest Abe had had Powerpoint available to him? (URL) some background (URL) a very controversial book (URL) if this is all old news to you all. It had me snickering (and I've been told I "give good foil" as we used to say in IBM)... (21 years ago, 20-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Justice for all.....
 
(...) 1) That's not the best reason to dislike it, 2) I know what forum that's from... :-) so what do you think of habnut's recent action? Was ryu being babyish or justified given everything? (21 years ago, 20-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Hmmmmmm. A pot bomb?????
 
This guy reminds me of the Iraqi propaganda guy - what was his name? (URL) (21 years ago, 20-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) Well that's all fine and dandy if he says "Look I'm gonna do some short term wrongs here, but I'm convinced in the long term it'll be alright" but I don't hear him saying that. "It's right to hold these suspected terrorist/conspirators without (...) (21 years ago, 20-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: File under 'D'...
 
(...) Ahhhh but you're only looking at the point of impact as defining the arrow, but in fact its probably more physical things about the arrow that define it. And these are unlikely to change much no matter how they're influenced in their flight. (...) (21 years ago, 20-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: File under 'D'...
 
(...) Hi-O! I never pegged you as a cheapshot artist, Dave! Will you be here all weekend;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) FINE!!! I admit it (again)-- the US and Israel aren't perfect!!! I am so tired of the comparisons to perfection! It's stupid to discuss! (...) My presence in this NG hangs by a thread as The Fates saw away. If not for the participation of a (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) Aren't puns "off-topic" for this newsgroup? ;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.pun, FTX)
 
  Re: File under 'D'...
 
(...) First of all, George W. Bush already has parents, so there's no need to adopt him. Secondly, the "nature vs. nurture" argument generally involves comparisons between individuals very similar to each other except regarding a specific range of (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: File under 'D'...
 
Just going thru this in my mind-- Nature is basically the 'building blocks' you are given at birth--hair colour, sex, height--and yes, nature changes your appearance as you row older, but, if I understand genetics properly, that change is pretty (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: File under 'D'...
 
(...) Sure, if we have parents raise a racoon, I favour nature as well... That said, you raise a racoon in a house with humans, that racoon would behave substantially different as an adult than a racoon raised by other racoons "out in the woods". So (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Justice for all.....
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Don Heyse wrote: <snip> (...) A tangent-- I read many newsgroups, and someone's .siggy file caought my eye--it says "I don't believe in capital punishment anymore for when was the last time you saw a rich person get (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) Cites validate an idea inasmuch as the idea has some substance supporting it. Whether or not the idea is valid is up to the contrary side to prove. As I hear in other avenues, "saying something is wrong doesn't make it wrong." I once read a (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: File under 'D'...
 
(...) Since I'm still slummin in .debate for now, I figure I just can't ignore this little nugget. Care to discuss why you give the advantage to nurture? I mean, if I were to adopt a monkey for instance, I'd tend to say "advantage nature". Which (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Justice for all.....
 
(...) Does it really matter who or what money? The fact that it's possible, and the previously linked article demonstrates that it's already happening means that the ICC is being influenced by money. That needs fixing before the ICC will ever work. (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) Aren't MOCs "on topic" for this newsgroup? ;-) Pedro (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.pun, FTX)
 
  Re: Justice for all.....
 
(...) That hasn't bothered rich countries from joining in thus far. Richer than the US, per capita, I might add. So whose money, bribing whom, to what end? If it were for money alone, the ICC would be swamped in trials already. (...) The EU has had (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Now that I've had a chance to see the new colors
 
(...) Well, since "business performance" may reasonably be interpreted as the measure of the company's ability to sustain higher profits, it's not really a lie. Further, I don't think it's a sin for a company to be motivated by the desire to make (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) Just tossing out cites does not in and of itself "prove the case"... You need to actually make a cogent argument that comes to a particular conclusion, and the cites then serve as evidence in support of your claims, assuming they themselves (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) I haven't forgotten, Lar! I was in "mock mode" with my comment with no intention whatsoever in engaging Scott on these topics. (...) I love the notion here in this group that if one produces a cite, it somehow validates an idea. Reminds me of (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) Whereas I usually concur with you, Larry, it seems as of late that Scott had developed a debate style in which his points are backed up and cited, as is hte case with this particular arguement. If the counter arguement to this debate is 'ride (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) When uttered by Scott, "Easy" and "prove me wrong" don't belong anywhere near each other. He happens to be mostly right (about the Bush II Admin and the great stink emanating from it) this time, but when he's wrong about something, proving it (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) Ride, Ride, Ride! JOHN (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Now that I've had a chance to see the new colors
 
(...) Yep. With the US being a large market for LEGO, I wonder how much the weakness of the USD is affecting TLC ? I'm sure there are all kinds of hedges and plays to protect the repatriation of earnings, but still. Ray (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Justice for all.....
 
(...) Thanks for the link. It highlights yet another reason the world is not yet ready for a global court system. Money. Until the economic disparity in the world is reduced significantly, there is too great a possiblilty that economically (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Justice for all.....
 
(...) See: (URL) United States has suspended over $47m in military aid to 35 countries that have not signed deals to grant American soldiers immunity from prosecution for war crimes... ...The US does not recognise the ICC, saying its forces could be (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Now that I've had a chance to see the new colors
 
(...) Works for me now! Thanks. I liked this: "The company said the firings were necessary due to thin business this year and that it expected continuing weak performance in 2004. Lego employs 8,000 people worldwide." Obviously, the company will (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Justice for all.....
 
(...) Nice try, but when I entered "Amnesty International Iraq Humiliating Video" in their search engine I got *Zero* links. That's what I'm talking about with the internet erroding the news archives, because I'm pretty sure they did have a news (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Now that I've had a chance to see the new colors
 
(...) Hmmm...it works for me. I also tried going to the main page ((URL) and entering "lego" in the search box. Anyone else having difficultly viewing the article? -- Thomas Main thomasmain@myrealbox.com (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Now that I've had a chance to see the new colors
 
(...) Scott A (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Now that I've had a chance to see the new colors
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Mark Tarrabain wrote: <snip> (...) Recently this discussion between Douglas R. Clark and Mark Tarrabain brought up some issues about trust and corporate motivation. It was taken to .debate, but I would like to return it (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Yaay...
 
(...) Presumably Wesley has seen evidence of this act of "belligerency"? If so, why not put Padilla on trial! Scott A (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Justice for all.....
 
(...) Try: (URL) :) (...) The international criminal court; Bush refuses to sign up to it as your countrymen *could* end up in jail *if* they commit war crimes. Frankly, I feel war criminals belong in jail! Scott A (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) Easy: Prove me wrong. Scott A (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) How could one sleep with your incessant SOS rants? JOHN (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Now that I've had a chance to see the new colors
 
(...) If I remember correctly, you asked “What *POSSIBLE* reason would TLC lie?”. Well I gave you some possible reasons. You did not ask for probable, plausible or credible reasons. I answered your question fairly, and you attack me instead? Heck, I (...) (21 years ago, 19-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Democracy.... Dubya Style
 
(...) That's right. I mean, how do you work with the ones that change their colors based on the whims of some focus group. (...) Yeah what I really want to talk about (the way to handle new colors in LDRAW) has gone underground with the LSC. I'm (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Yaay...
 
(...) I wonder, though, what will prevent Dubya in his Imperial zeal, from simply throwing the matter to a non-public military tribunal? He certainly has no qualms about secrecy in these matters. (...) What the heck qualifies as belligerency? Does (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Yaay...
 
Let's see if it sticks, and if Rummy can follow directions, but this is a bit of good news: From: (URL) Bush (news - web sites) does not have power to detain American citizen Jose Padilla, the former gang member seized on U.S. soil, as an enemy (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Justice for all.....
 
(...) Scott never does that. :-) Neither do any of the rest of us here. ;-) (...) Rule #1 if you see a big nesting, deeper than 3 or 4, and it's you and Scott(1), and you're not getting anywhere with your point, give up. (...) International Criminal (...) (21 years ago, 18-Dec-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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