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(...) No age discrimination, please. I am still never going to kick Helen Mirren out of bed given the opportunity. I don't care how old she is -- she's sexy, sophisticated, smart, and obviously knows what she is doing. Bring it, Helen!!! In the end, (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) You recall incorrectly. They were returned on Reagan's watch and there was lose of life in a botched rescue attempt. (...) Seem fine to me. (...) If you want to talk about bum raps events, I would say that GWB got the granddaddy of them all on (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And yet he got all the hostages back whilst sticking to his 'Christian convictions' and, iirc, not firing one shot or a loss oof a life. How's Dubya's Christian convictions doing? I think Carter got a bum rap due to the events of the world--as (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which only goes to prove something: Carter had morals and convictions, but he was no great shakes as president. He got voted in by the religious "born again" faction, and he got voted out by the religious "born again" faction. I like him now (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would agree that the two situations are very different, but I would classify your unwillingness to equate the two as leftist spin. Both men were caught in large lies. Nixon was lying directly to the American people, and had he not resigned (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I actually agree, Carter was a very respectable, honest, moral and good hearted man, he just wasn't a very effective leader. His economic plans were horrible, and his forien policy was even worse. That said, Carter is possibly the greatest (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I doubt very seriously that the Powers That Be really would have sat on their hands if they knew 3,000 people would die. My point is that they had all the clues and they should have had a better grip on what was about to happen than they did. (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm personally partial to PMOY 1999, and, of course, Miss June 2003... Both for differnt reasons... Dave K (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I made it thru school totally unscathed... Every teacher in grade school knew how to pronounce the last name 'cause I have 30ish cousins older than me and we all grew up in the same small town... So the regular teachers were fine--it was (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah, but he told Playboy that he had sinned in his heart. I even think I have that copy of Playboy. But, you cannot really blame people for being human beings -- and human beings tend to be serial monogomists at best. At worse, we all of us (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I always affectionately think of you as "cooties" with a K, as I think you know... =) -- Hop-Frog (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Exactly. This "with us, or against us" stuff is crazy. Why can't a person be wholly patriotic and still want a moment to figure out what might be the truly correct response to a crisis? (...) This is why I harp on people's apparent partisan (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yes. If anyone cares to track it back, I posted about this some weeks ago -- esp. the offshore corporation scam. I repeat, corporations are granted special benefits as fictitious persons because they are supposed to provide a public good in (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Dubya had a great deal of, well, hatred's not a word that I'd use, but some sort of ridicule from the Left... I think it might be much like the past few elections--b/w Bubba and Bob Dole... By the way, for the record, I would have really liked (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The jury's still out, isn't it? I mean, we're still in the midst of the detentions and profiling, so we can hardly judge Dubya's policies as if they've run their full course. In addition, Dubya's internment of Arabs is worsened because he (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(URL) which this editorial goes on about... " The failure of the Bush team to produce any weapons of mass destruction (W.M.D.'s) in Iraq is becoming a big, big story. But is it the real story we should be concerned with? No. It was the wrong issue (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I sure am, just not this one, I don't think she would ever win, she inspires a great deal of hatred from many on the right. I do find it interesting that she is writing about the affairs, I guarantee it will sell more books, we humans are such (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, and love of soft living and the get-rich-quick theory of life." - Theodore Roosevelt. The consolidation of power that (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) think I'll buy the book... But President Hillary in 2008? Are you guys down there ready for a woman president? Dave K (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's very nearly a 100% apocryphal statistic. Here's one addressing of the issue: (URL) but there countless others on the web and in print media that draw pretty much the same conclusion. I'm not worried about my Canadian friends who (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jun-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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