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  Shame on Us (was Re: Just Teasing...)
 
"Opening War Salvos Spark Global Protests" (URL) and Australia, the only nations to commit significant numbers of troops to the U.S.-led effort, resolutely stuck by Washington. ---...--- So, that's basically the English speaking world except for (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Whose Wealth is it Again? (Re: Just Teasing...)
 
"Iraq Oil Wells May Have Been Set Ablaze" (URL) before the war began, the Pentagon (news - web sites) expressed fears that Saddam Hussein had planned to sabotage Iraq's oil fields by booby-trapping wells so one person could blow them up. A loss of (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "gutless" bush?
 
(...) Evidence, please. The Secret Service is, as I understand it, trained to secure the safety of the president, even if he's appointed rather than elected to the position. I think that should take a maximum of about half an hour. I'm no expert on (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "gutless" bush?
 
(...) All sarcasm is lost on him, but I digress. (...) I think you mean "Secret Service", but there are those that would argue that your statement is equivalent to the one made by Dave! They may seem to have different words but they come out to the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "gutless" bush?
 
(...) I think a lot more of us could benefit from being separated from Cheney... Perhaps he can be placed in a rocketship and sent into space with what -- a 2 hour supply of oxygen? Works for me. Although I guess some kind of "conflict of interests" (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: America need not apologize
 
(...) One can hope! (URL) is a week or so old and not necessarily a representative sample of all Arab thinking but I did find it interesting, and agreeable. (the shots at the US and Britain and other western powers are well placed, in my view)... (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: America need not apologize
 
(...) And I think his own countrymen would rather support him than an invading and greedy foreign power. Once their loved ones are killed, lets see how quickly those sweet Iraqis embrace americans in exchange for chocolate bars and a hovel to live (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "gutless" bush?
 
(...) No, he had to wait until the Secter Service was satisfied that the he was relatively safe from harm and separated from Cheney. -Dave J. (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "gutless" bush?
 
(...) I thought what was wanted was justice for the "helpless" Iraqi people? Why should we let SH slip away quietly when it is our "claimed" agenda to make him pay for his supposed crimes? Or is there another agenda that doesn't care about justice (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rats Leaving the Sinking Ship (Re: Just Teasing...)
 
(...) Exactly. I love peace, but I am not a pacificist. When terror comes home they can expect a fight, more likely a serious beating, and possibly death. And they will have gotten what they so richly deserved. From the word go on 911, I have stated (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: America need not apologize
 
(...) That's exactly why he does it. He knows he can't even get his own countrymen to support him, so he's using his power as a figurehead to 'rally the troops' among the rest of the Arab world. Hopefully, they'll see him for the madman he is and (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) Whoops! Let me clarify: Inasmuch as we have previously agreed that communist nations are evil (as opposed to Dubya's fire-&-brimstone pulpit definition of evil), then I agree that DPRK is evil. (...) Nice usage, once again! (...) I'm not sure, (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "gutless" bush?
 
(...) Not lost, but misplaced. No one really thinks that Dubya should have leapt to the front lines as soon as danger reared its head (though that might have been nice), but he should have addressed the nation much more promptly than he did, and he (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "gutless" bush?
 
(...) I'll agree completely that 'keeping the peace' is the paramount concern here. That, and the prevention of the proliferation of more WOMD. Saddam thumbed his nose at the UN resolutions and sanctions imposed on his country. Now it's time to put (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  War Ousts Sex and Britney
 
I copped this link from a certain blog I sometimes watch... (URL) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: "gutless" bush?
 
(...) Why? I wouldn't have cared if Saddam had been allowed to thumb his nose at resolution after resolution after resolution, ad infinitum...I have no ego investment in making others obey my every word, as long as they also keep the peace. Everyone (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rats Leaving the Sinking Ship (Re: Just Teasing...)
 
(...) This actually sums up a lot of the reasons I oppose this war. It is an unnecessary distraction. Even with UN sanctioning, it is terribly mis-timed. This should not be our focus; this war has diluted our efforts against Al Qaeda at best, and is (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) I am merely pointing out that it was a matter of greater personal importance than of national importance; consequently, I don't really care about the nature of his answers or evasions. Focus, focus, focus -- on what really matters. I am (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Rats Leaving the Sinking Ship (Re: Just Teasing...)
 
"Top White House anti-terror boss resigns" (URL) March 19 (UPI) -- The top National Security Council official in the war on terror resigned this week for what a NSC spokesman said were personal reasons, but intelligence sources say the move reflects (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
 
(...) Is the DPRK evil or not? I missed where you answered this one, Dave! (...) Pin it on the current administration, eh? That's quite the stretch, even for you, Dave! I'm completely happy to place most of the blame for where we are now on the (...) (22 years ago, 20-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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