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(...) gun (...) gun (...) always (...) Except that right now it would be easier for me to purchase an AK-47 through illegal channels than it would be for me to purchase a 6-shooter through legal channels. (...) I will definately agree that if your (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So you want the state to protect you from yourself and your weak will then? Is that it? I'm going to campaign to outlaw hot fudge, after all, some people can't resist it. (...) It might be what you're advocating, it just doesn't happen to be (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And I agree that there will always be those that want to break the law, or use a weapon in a moment of passion--I admitted that I'm torn when it comes to me, a gun, and Paul Bernardo (my ethics would prevent me from doing harm to him in the (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The violent crime rate doubled* in Canada and tripled* in the UK after the gun control laws went into effect. Yes they are still lower than in the US but that is beside the point. I do understand your point now, but unless every gun on the (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'll try to make this as simple as possible, without getting into a totally complex discussion-- If people don't have guns, people can't get shot by guns. That's as simple as it gets. Knives, hatchets, pipes, hands, and the rest all have (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Oh I'd love to have a black/white, right/wrong stance as clear and simplistic as the one you're proposing, Larry. But the world's a complex place, which needs complex problem solving--there is nothing cut 'n dry in life. So when I say that I (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Red/Green-- When tested, on a scale of CV (colour vision) 1-5, 1 being not colour blind and 5 being total colourblind, I'm a CV 3, which means I could have been a chef or such in the armed forces--I could not be a scuba diver (which I wanted (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I seem to recall that we may have had some discussion here on the book "Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture" by Michael Bellesiles although I could not find a relevant post. At any rate it puts forth the thesis that "guns were (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) alive. (...) Ok now I am really confused on why you support gun control. I mean you do know that the crime rate in Canada has almost doubled since the nation wide Gun Control laws went into effect right? Sure it is still a lot lower than the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: (selective snipping for comedic effect) (...) But if the way you see them *is* black and white, wouldn't that measn....? ;-) -->Bruce<-- (red/green? total? My right eye sees redder and my left (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Snippety Snip... (...) followed by... (...) What was your stance on guns again??? I think I missed something. You're ready to go vigilante on a serial killer but not support ousting someone (1) who killed hundreds of thousands (or, if you go by the (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes: <snip> (...) In answer to a few other points made... (URL) out the 'toon at the bottom of this page... It has been said that I'm morally 'wishy washy'. I think that, given a cut 'n dry scenario, I am (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I didn't want to get into it deeply for I didn't see the actual interview, and am only going by what has been said here, as well as the links posted. But if true, I don't think I'd string Dan up on the nearest branch--rather I'd do (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) "Oh well"... "A shame"... ??? Is that the best you can do, Dave? One could argue that this interview(1) was "aiding and comforting the enemy", assuming Saddam's our enemy specifically(2). This interview(1) is a perfect example of what's wrong (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> (...) Depends on your POV-- to Saddam it was like hitting the jackpot. (Hence my post). JOHN (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm sorry--I'm working up from the bottom of two Tylennol Cold capsules, so fingers well very working my aren't. Yes indeed, Rather should be ridiculed/blasted/condemned for this sweeps stunt. My poorly prefaced statement should have begin (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, missing a golden opportunity like this is a shame. I don't care what the Iraqi editors would have done--let them cancel the interview even--ask the questions that need answering--"Saddam, you have killed your citizens--why and are you (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes: <snipped the stuff I mostly agree with> (...) Why is it hard to fault Rather? I'm a bit lost on that part. I don't think it's hard at all! Is it hard because he's developmentally disadvantaged or (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) and (...) Granted, the NRO makes no overtures of impartiality, but I don't recall anyone "rallying around" Rather prior to or following the idiotic interview. Bill Maher decried it last night on Larry King Live, and I know of at least several (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Decide for yourself: (URL) was incredulous, embarrassed, and enraged. It was almost surreal. JOHN (22 years ago, 27-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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