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(...) But there's nothing like a Pearl Harbor or 9-11 to jolt one's senses. The sad truth is that a bloody nose is *exactly* what it takes. (...) And what if she does? What the hell does that have to do with anything? (...) Please. Diplomacy has (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That might be more common. Could ask the Statistics of Deadly Quarrels research folks about the majority. So maybe not so many whole civilizations, but certainly city-states and isolated population centers. Philip II at Thebes. Alexander at (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One could compare it to a much more present situation :-) (funny how History repeats itself over and over again) (...) Are you sure that so many wars ended that way? From my own experience, I think it's a lot more common that the "losers" of (...) (22 years ago, 26-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Read of the end of Carthage: (URL) skip the last paragraph where Scipio compares Carthage to Troy. Innumerable wars have ended with complete annihilation of the enemy. The world is littered with dead cities, dead languages, untraceable peoples. The (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Rome vs. Carthage, the three Punic Wars. The third was pure force, resulting in the total anihilation of Carthage (even in physical terms) and enslavement of the surviving carthaginians. That is, in fact, a permanent solution. Question is, is (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have heard it thru American friends this weekend that companies that make pharmaceuticals will be protected from lawsuits for 'known side effects', should this bill pass. Again, could be rumour, but that's a little scary if true. Dave K (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, here's a brief interesting historical interpretation: (URL) entire article (the good bit is closer to the end of the article, listing a bunch of, shall we say, more colourful metaphors used by American and Canadian folks): Editorial: (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps it should not take a bloody nose for anyone to see the truth about terrorism? (...) lol (...) I feel sorry for you. What do you do if you disagree with your wife? Does she beat you until you do agree, or do you talk the problem over? (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps it should not take a bloody nose for anyone to see the truth about terrorism? (...) lol (...) I feel sorry for you. What do you do if you disagree with your wife? Does she beat you until you do agree, or do you talk the problem over? (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're injecting another issue into the discussion, which I will address in a moment. In any case, let's consider what you're saying: You're claiming that conservative talking heads can't be called demagogues as long as they are open about (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Is there an online version of the full +/- 400 page bill? I'd like to see which corporations have been removed from accountability and which have been rewarded for creating unemployment and for dodging tax responsibility. Thanks! Dave! (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Give it a rest. I wrote this post in an effort to stop your disruptive behaviour: (URL) man enough to either stick to the issues or keep quiet. Scott A (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I prefer Mike Huben's analysis: "The Libertarian Party is well on its way to dominating the political landscape, judging from its power base of 100+ elected dogcatchers and other important officials after 25 years of effort." ;) More here: (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't know-- Jesus was too much on the straight and narrow to drive a fried-out Combi. I'd see him more at the helm of the Patridge Family bus, and if he were driving in road-rage-ravaged LA, the sign on the back of the bus would say, (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Just like a rebellious child: his dad had a Plymouth (God drove Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, "in a Fury!" - thank you, Scott Ostler). Yeah, if Jesus had to actually drive himself (SoCAl) it would be a VW MicroBus. (...) I thought the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd also go with the VW bus. I think it has to do with the stereotypical image of Jesus left over from Sunday school mixed up with childhood memories of hippies-- it's easy to imagine Jesus driving up Highway 1 giving rides to hitchhiking (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) He'd take public transportation, without a doubt. The Apostles would shift for themselves (was that an unintentional anti-automatic transmission joke?). I suppose the more interesting question is what would Satan drive? -->Bruce<-- Who drives (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You mean "VW"? And would that be before or after his sex change operation? -John (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you have it backwards, Dave! None of the above would claim to be unbiased-- they are honest and open about their conservative leanings. It's the print media, the networks, public radio who disingenuously pass themselves off as "fair (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I wouldn't exactly call "he who has the biggest stick" a naive solution-- perhaps a tried and proven one.... Remember, Saddam has a pretty big stick himself-- he has butchered 100,000s of his own people with it! So why are so many bleeding (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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