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  Homeland Defense Bill
 
Is there an online version of the full +/- 400 page bill? I'd like to see which corporations have been removed from accountability and which have been rewarded for creating unemployment and for dodging tax responsibility. Thanks! Dave! (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Give it a rest. I wrote this post in an effort to stop your disruptive behaviour: (URL) man enough to either stick to the issues or keep quiet. Scott A (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) I prefer Mike Huben's analysis: "The Libertarian Party is well on its way to dominating the political landscape, judging from its power base of 100+ elected dogcatchers and other important officials after 25 years of effort." ;) More here: (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: WWJD - Or: Chariots of the Gods
 
(...) I don't know-- Jesus was too much on the straight and narrow to drive a fried-out Combi. I'd see him more at the helm of the Patridge Family bus, and if he were driving in road-rage-ravaged LA, the sign on the back of the bus would say, (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: WWJD - Or: Chariots of the Gods
 
(...) Just like a rebellious child: his dad had a Plymouth (God drove Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, "in a Fury!" - thank you, Scott Ostler). Yeah, if Jesus had to actually drive himself (SoCAl) it would be a VW MicroBus. (...) I thought the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  WWJD Was Re: Not embarrassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(...) I'd also go with the VW bus. I think it has to do with the stereotypical image of Jesus left over from Sunday school mixed up with childhood memories of hippies-- it's easy to imagine Jesus driving up Highway 1 giving rides to hitchhiking (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(...) He'd take public transportation, without a doubt. The Apostles would shift for themselves (was that an unintentional anti-automatic transmission joke?). I suppose the more interesting question is what would Satan drive? -->Bruce<-- Who drives (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(...) You mean "VW"? And would that be before or after his sex change operation? -John (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(...) I think you have it backwards, Dave! None of the above would claim to be unbiased-- they are honest and open about their conservative leanings. It's the print media, the networks, public radio who disingenuously pass themselves off as "fair (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(...) I wouldn't exactly call "he who has the biggest stick" a naive solution-- perhaps a tried and proven one.... Remember, Saddam has a pretty big stick himself-- he has butchered 100,000s of his own people with it! So why are so many bleeding (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Habeas Corpus? Never heard of it...
 
(URL) bother with silly old due process... just lock them away for months or years and we'll all be a lot safer. "them" in this context being whoever it is the government has squirreled away for our protection. Not sure who exactly that *is* since (...) (22 years ago, 24-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(...) Let me also point out what Pat B is saying about Canadians--"Look at all we have done for them and they continue to whine." K, Pat, I'm sitting here waiting for you to list all the great and wondrous things you "'Mericans" have done for us (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(...) And I wonder how we would all feel if Dubya at least acted like a true leader of "the people"--leading them to do the right thing--instead of trotting down the same old 'naive solution' of 'he who has the biggest stick'. What I want to hear, (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(...) Why is it that when Limbaugh, Reagan, Gallagher, Buchannan, Falwell, Robertson, Carlson, Will, O'Reilly et al spout pro-Republican invective it's called "fair and balanced reporting," but when a left-leaning commentator voices n opinion it's (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(...) I can't help but to wonder if this person's opinion would be different had OBL leveled a different target-- namely Toronto's First Canadian Place. He may disagree with Bush's decisions handling worldwide terrorism, but calling them "moronic" (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) It's not. But we're performing a useful service to the country nonetheless. A filibuster proof Senate with the likes of Bob Barr running some things is a scary thought to behold. (...) c /libertarian Republicans/Libertarians/ and you're on to (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) If that's all your party ever wants to aspire to be (a spoiler), then knock yourselves out. But think about this: think about a senate with *no* clear majority and libertarian Republicans controlling the swing votes. That's power. What you (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) See also this analysis... (URL) an admittedly partisan source) My favorite excerpt: "It marks the third consecutive election in which a Libertarian has cost the Republican Party a Senate seat," wrote Miller. "If there had been no Libertarian (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Not embarassed to be a Canadian anymore...
 
(URL) still embarassed that JC is the PM, but that's neither here nor there... Someone, somewhere, in a position of Canadian Authority, told it like it is. Though I would never call any person a moron, I would call a persons policies and directives (...) (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  saw this link on MegaTokyo.com and thought of here.
 
(URL) you enjoy it. I thought it was pretty funny. Unfortunately. (22 years ago, 23-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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