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(...) Xtians? Jews? Muslims? Etc.? Funny the things that get justified for THE MOST HOLY reasons... -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 7-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snip> (...) If you mean rich guys don't have the "freedom" (aka power) to buy a seat in power - I agree. Protecting democracy is far more important. (...) lol. Was Thatcher a liberal? <snip> (...) have (...) billions (...) Think bigger John. (...) (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Your choice of having your children taught french is very wise, IMHO. As a starter for romace languages it is very good *because it is hard*, and it comes quite handy at times. From french, italian, catalonian and (to a lesser degree) spanish (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The very idea of a senate was to provide a stabler body of legislators-- hence the longer 6 year term. If you merely get re-elected, you have already logged 12 years. Compare that to a rep, which would represent 6 terms. I was thinking of it (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I got (...) lol First, I don't know much French (though my kids speak it fluently)-- I was guessing at the spelling. The translation is Rooney's himself-- that it refers to gambling just adds to its humor:-) Thanks for the info, Pedro! -John (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not defending my post as a refutation of your claim, but I'm curious about this. How is long term limit a flaw? I was thinking of it as an asset because it supplies a venue in which long periods of public service are reasonably possible. (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I know what you mean. I didn't figure anyone would actually do the Senate thingy, I was just fooling around at work. :-) (...) I actually don't think that I refuted it...just provided some data. But I agree that his 5:1 is likely too high. On (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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And how is the below any different than completing a third term? In either case, the INTENT was to work a third term, whether it was completed or not. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) My assertion was among career politicians (all politicians), the ones over 20 years of service would be 5:1 Democrat. I just pulled that ratio out of the air. His sample really had nothing to do with my hypothesis. -John (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I believe there was a typo in the original sentence: "les jeux son faits" should translate to "the game is set" or "the bets are made". Frequent in Casinos, IIRC, when the roulette is spinned. Pedro (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not that it matters-- I was just tweaking you:-) The point was the humor of Rooney quoting French as he's about to (as far as he knows) bust Ferris. BTW, he himself translates for us: "The game is up". -John (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I think he refuted your 5:1 quite well within the short time constraints he had. He certainly did a good job as far as *I* was concerned in showing there was nowhere near a 5:1 ratio. I'm sure he could do the same for HoR, but if you think he did (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Refuted it? Hardly. First off, choosing the senate as a basis for investigation is flawed from the start because their terms are so long. Second, he calls a senator who has merely won his third term (but not served 1 day of the third term) a (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I ran it through Babelfish, but it didn't make much sense - "plays its fact". A basic search did not bring up a good translation within 30sec or so, so yes, I got lazy (see my other thread about people making it too easy on the rest of us). It was (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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More often than not, I find myself not replying to many points in a discussion, because I just KNOW that by the time I start doing any decent research, one of you will have completed their research and posted the results by then (e.g., Chris' (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Personally, I tired after looking up "mote";-) Did you search my French line, or were *you* too lazy? :-) -John (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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BTW, for those that were too stubborn/ignorant/lazy to look it up, typing "pathemata mathemata" into the Location bar of Communicator gave the following match in less than 1 second: (URL) of: pathemata mathemata (Greek) pathemata mathemata (Greek): (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) That's it! I voiced the same opinion as both Scott and John in under 2 days!!! Now I just have to say something that goes with what Dave! says and I will cease to exist!! Dave (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Precisely. And all said, we will never know. The theories of Evolution and "Creationism" (I'd call it a belief, not a theory, but whatever) are 2 sides of the same coin. *Neither* are proveable, and the debate is similar to the "existence of (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are wrong, and I will correct you. According to scientists (including non-Creationist), the definitions are these: Microevolution: The theory that natural selection, over time, take an organism and transform it into a more specialized (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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