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Re: Evolution vs Scientific Creationism
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Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:54:42 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> Something, or someone started this mess we call life, for before the Big
> Bang, what was there?
Precisely.
And all said, we will never know. The theories of Evolution and "Creationism"
(I'd call it a belief, not a theory, but whatever) are 2 sides of the same
coin. *Neither* are proveable, and the debate is similar to the "existence of
God" one-- futile. Neither side will ever be able to prove one way or another
that they are correct.
What I object to is the characterization by evolutionists is that *their*
theory somehow has more merit merely because it has the potential (however nil)
to be proved via emperical evidence. Evolution is not taught as a *theory*,
but as a *fact*, with the implication being that anyone believing otherwise is
ignorant.
In the same vein, atheists tend to characterize those who believe in God as
anti-intellectual-- as if their position is in some way more valid! The
double-standard is so pretentious and dishonest!
The fact is that the evidence supporting evolution is highly problematic and
lacking, but since we don't have any better *science-based* theories, we
teach it.
If we were honest, we would begin the discussion of the origin of life with the
acknowledgement that we have no idea how it all started-- how something could
come from nothing. In that context, boiled down to their essence, evolution
and creationism are equal-- both cannot explain the origin of their origins.
And yet one is touted as being intellectually superior to the other.
To assert that the application of science to the study of origins has any more
merit than religion is simply dishonest.
In the end, *both* require leaps of faith. It's just that one won't
acknowledge it, and worse, it criticizes the other for it.
-John
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) That's it! I voiced the same opinion as both Scott and John in under 2 days!!! Now I just have to say something that goes with what Dave! says and I will cease to exist!! Dave (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| BTW, for those that were too stubborn/ignorant/lazy to look it up, typing "pathemata mathemata" into the Location bar of Communicator gave the following match in less than 1 second: (URL) of: pathemata mathemata (Greek) pathemata mathemata (Greek): (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes: <snip> Most of the time in these debates, I feel like the 5 year old trying to understand his older brother and his buddies talking about the stuff they learned in grade 8--sometimes is (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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