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  Re: UK gets a raw deal again
 
(...) Leiden just happens to be where I lived while on research. Are you not Dutch (the international school)? The surname implies Dutchness. :) I didn't mind living in southwestern Leiden, but I lived north of Leiden-CS and that was less pleasant. (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) Amen. (...) Take off:-) (...) Wimps;-) (...) Of course. But it wasn't *our* war yet (although we were exporting like mad to support the allies-- lend-lease, etc) The (...) Well, shouldn't it be thus? (...) Did you hear this on WW... >;^D (...) (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) The Chinese sold pasta to italian merchants. They "invented" gunpowder (I am not sure of the date, though). And they chose the ultimate path a great civilization can afford to, they ignored the rest of us *because they could afford to*. And up (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: UK gets a raw deal again
 
What's so great about Leiden? The only reason I live here is because of the international school in Leiderdorp that our daughter goes to. But I can't wait to leave Leiden behind me again. Do you know it's got the lowest average IQ in the country? (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) The usual leftist bilge, Richard? (...) Because freedom and responsibility go hand in hand. Many people don't understand that. (...) Show me in our Constitution where: 1. that is anywhere near the government's responsibility, and 2. why I (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) Thank you! :-) (...) I used the expression "differnt context" for some reason. And I did not criticize the USA for any sort of Imperialist attitude, did I? (...) Innacurate: the Britons who originally left found life in the Colonies better; (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) It may be because of immigration regulations. (...) That sounds quite a bit simplified. The majority of immigrants come from neighboring countries. There have been a fair number of immigrants from Sweden lately, and they generally move over (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) The usual madness, John? We are amongst the most incarcerated people of any nation, and this is by percentage, not just numbers. Why do you suppose that is? One reason, and there are many others, is that we'd rather treat our drug addicts (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) And I guess that's also the point here--the gov't can say, 'Yes, we as a nation believe there's a God, but the individuals in the nation can believe whatever they please' and do this without having a 'State Run Religion'. Anywho, this has been (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) Thank you Simon, for bringing up Liberia. Any nation whose Constitution guarantees the freedoms of its people deserves to be included among the greatest nations on earth. The table is set for that country-- the possibilities for them are (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) free of "Canada's Better, no the US is better" rhetoric): (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) (URL) Dave! (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) OK, against my better judgement I'm going to wade in here. Thank you John for providing your very simple method of calculating greatness (with which I do not agree but I think coming up with a formula for such a thing would be like nailing (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) God bless us all. K, I'm saying it--I think Canada is the free-est nation on the planet 'cause we're not beholden to some piece of paper written 200+ years ago and therefore the greatest (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Question Time is fine television.
 
(...) Shh! The overseas entertainment factor is one of the biggest reasons used to justify the "reform" of PMQ’s. Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) Fine. Just show me a better one. (...) And I say again-- pick a greater one. (...) How can one say that we are great because of our people, and OTOH we are a nation of immigrants (people from *other* countries). Our people are (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) Most people don't know that the US Army's Psychological Operations sends it's members out as interns at US news organizations. Think I'm kidding? (URL) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) This is one for the first things that I actually agreed with ;) (...) There is nothing with saying the USofA is great. My original issue was with saying it is the "Greatest" nation. The US is great, for numerous reasons which I may expound on, (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) Foundation. The fact that he's right is irrelevant. (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
(...) A bunch of immigrants were forced to come here. (...) Um...uh...well...we did! (...) to (...) Actually, I largely agree with this. The core of whatever greatness we have claim to (aside from the dumb luck, which is indisputable) is our (...) (22 years ago, 3-Jul-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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