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Re: One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:06:27 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> There is nothing with saying the USofA is great. My original issue was with
> saying it is the "Greatest" nation. The US is great, for numerous reasons
> which I may expound on, but it is arrogance and conceit to say it is the
> Greatest nation.
Fine. Just show me a better one.
> Yes there is opportunity. Yes people are allowed to do as they please for
> freedom and justice for all. These are good things, they make the US great.
> But I state again, is not making the Greatest Nation on the planet.
And I say again-- pick a greater one.
> You are great because your people make it so. The Constitution was a good
> starting point, but people a)must come first and b) evolve. To be slaves to
> a piece of paper will make a country stagnant and unchanging.
How can one say that we are great because of our people, and OTOH we are a
nation of immigrants (people from *other* countries). Our people are
indistinguishable from the people of other countries. What is different is
that here, those people are *free*! And the Constitution is what safeguards
those freedoms. If we stagnate and remain unchanged in our defense of
liberty-- dude, that is a *good* thing!
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> The thousands who sacrificed before the US decided that it would be in their
> best interests to join the war. I think its historically accurate to say
> that most fights the US has bee in has been for internal reasons. Britain
> started WWII because of what Germany did to someone else.
Pearl Harbor was hardly "internal". And since when is it now known that
*Britain* started WWII???
> So it all depends on how you define 'greatest'.
I define "greatest" by how a country treats its citizens. The people of the US
of A are the freest people in the world, and *that* is what makes us the
greatest. The fact that we are the greatest economic, military, and cultural
presence on earth is only a testament to that fact, not reasons for it.
> What's the no. 1 cause of death for black males aged between 18 and 35 in
> the United States? Homicide.
What's the point here?
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> Yeah, don't tell me the US is the greatest nation on the planet.
I'll not only tell you, I'll tell you again. I am proud to be an American, and
on the eve of the anniversary of our independence, I'll tell you this. I am
not saying that America doesn't have problems-- of course we do. We are in the
middle of a huge cultural struggle right now. We have just as many problems as
anyone else. But we face far graver dangers from the fact that we are a free
society than from any external source.
We are great because we are free, and we are the greatest because we are the
freest.
God bless America!
-John
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