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(...) No, just expressing my view. (...) However, the article is interesting. It compares the US and European Press without saying who is right or wrong. Its main conclusion is that the European Press is more pro-Palestinian than what you have in (...) (22 years ago, 29-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes, possibly, though I don't believe so in this case. (...) Welcome to the real world. (...) (URL) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you trying to *bait* me? Here's another article which may explain our differences: (URL) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I seriously doubt that anyone in authority knew 9/11 "specifically" was about to happen. I think it is pretty clear that something like 911 could have been predicted{1}, and that perhaps air security should have been tightened a touch (and/or (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, obviously the first *televised* moon landing was filmed on a sound stage (in Death Valley, as it turns out, rather than Hollywood). The underlying conspiracy is that the real first lunar landing took place in 1963 as part of a joint (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lemme ask a question here. How well do you think our democracy works in a situation like this? What could Bush have done to stop it? What *have* they done to stop it? Reinforced airplane doors? Heightened security? How much pressure do you (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can any thinking person actually, logically, believe that any sitting president would look the other way while their country was attacked just for economic gain? This goes beyond politics to basic human morality. I refuse that any person in a (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) some kind of Bush apologist, from this and other occasions people have called attention to her work. But here is the thing -- I really don't give a damn about Bin Laden or Afghanistan if our president, the intelligence community, the national (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) (here it comes...) Yeah, well, I'm not American and I couldn't give a rat's patootie what some gun lovin' hick from Texas thinks of me. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, unless *proven* that he knew specifically that 9/11 was going o (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Indeed, Scotland has "refugees" in much of commonwealth (e.g. Canada and NZ). But that's all in the past; we are one big happy nation now. I'm even looking forward to viewing England's progress in the World Cup. I have enjoyed their last two (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <blink blink> Really? The Scots and the English have been assuming ownership of each others abandoned property for centuries, I thought. They've even occaisionally arranged for a little spontanious abandonment. James (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You don't have proof then! Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Be careful Richard. The USA is at W A R. As such, your comments are unpatriotic. The thought police will be knocking on your door any moment now. Scott A (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) If a family has lived on the same plot of land for generations, why should they be removed (relocated) without compensation to provide a home for an economic migrant from the former USSR who has chosen relocation to improve his own personal (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You're wrong. Read around the subject a little more. As the Israeli forces advanced they destroyed whole villages in their path. Israel was able to clear 80% of Palestinians from the area (~700,000 individuals). (...) Well, I think they wanted (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm definitely on the same page with that--take the land away from both parties. Like a parent taking a toy away from two fighting kids until they both act more mature. As for the pregnant men--ouch!--Arnold in 'Junior' Dave (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) only relocation by their own choice - AFAIK, Israel never forced anyone to leave their houses in '48 (or '67), the people who left did so from their own free will. Fearing Israel will do to them what the Arab countries would have done to the (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This is the part that messes me up, though; aren't there quite a few people now living in that region who were personally subject to relocation? If so, then they would seem to have a legitimate grievance. (...) Well, sure--I agree that (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well I like(1) the solution offered in _The Fresco_ (by Sheri S. Tepper, an SF author who really has grown on me lately, she's worth some careful reading) In that novel the aliens, after observing the situation, ejected everyone from old (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) One difference is that you haven't been warring with the same faction for the last 2000+ years. If, out of the blue, someone were to come knocking at your door and relocate your family, an injustice has just occured against you. If, on the (...) (22 years ago, 28-May-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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