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(...) Easy there, fireball, lest we accuse you of being a Typical Conservative--santimoniousness, arrogance, bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, and an irrepressible zeal for curtailing others' rights to expression. Naturally I'd never want to paint a (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And since this topic/discussion/issue is so convoluted to begin with, *not* clarifying what a person meant will really help the situation. True understanding comes with discourse, thru talking about it, with listening to other people's POV. (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I certainly won't argue that point... at least not at this time. (...) but I would assert that there are at least two competing definitions of art: "art is in the eye of the beholder" "art is what the artist says is art" Under the first (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That is a result of your pre-conceived notions. You sympathize with PLO terrorists and so you feel it comes off negative. I abhor PLO terrorists and not coincidently, I found it amusing. In the same way, I find mockery in the Brick Testament. (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I said *think* about it. Think of major conflicts and how they were eventually resolved. (...) Well, it's pretty self-evident IMO. If you don't realize it right away, I doubt any amount of explanation would help you understand anyway. -John (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) quoteth James (...) Victory can bring us peace? What, at the annihilation of one side or the other? True, that's peace, since you now have no one that disagrees with you. Further, if you think victory doesn't necessitate a complete total party (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Scott & All, (Ach, too many Scott's in here! : ) ) (...) Not really, as I have said before, they both have that shock value, regardless of the debate aspects of both subjects. I was shocked when I saw both, actually. (...) Well, there has been a lot (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Dan & All, It seems funny this goes right into debate, since I have not posted here for a variety of reasons in many moons. (...) Did I ever say that? No. All I said is that it your creation, along with the Holocaust Sets, seem to have the same (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I agree with this, but I think he meant it to be rather negative. For the record, I think Scott was not quite correct. In my opinion, the Holocaust sets can be considered to be "art", whereas I feel Dan's intention was a jest. Of course, it (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps you could explain this a little more so that the "wisdom" may be appreciated? (...) Perhaps you could explain (as I think nobody else has despite requests) why it is so disturbing? Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) started (...) the (...) What am I missing here? What is the link between Dann's pic, Scott's comment & "official USA doctrine"? Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's more or less what I was saying too. (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Maybe because what James said happens to be true-- you need to think about history to appreciate its wisdom. I will go on record as to saying that Richard's post in question was probably the most disturbing I've ever read in this forum as (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now that I think of it, there's another interpretation of Scott's post that I don't believe has been considered. Maybe Scott's point can be paraphrased as "Wow. As commentary-in-LEGO, that ranks..." I absolutely don't presume to put words in (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:Guq6vs.DKE@lugnet.com... (...) Lego bricks (...) that any (...) offensive (...) Lego(r) (...) of (...) inappropriate (...) picking a (...) they (...) satire. (...) a (...) as (...) (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I was tempted to reply to James with "this is one of the scariest, most disturbing posts I've ever read on LUGNET."... but I thought I had better not! ;) Scott A (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Can you substantiate this using an independent source? My understanding is that schools in places like Jenin are mostly run by UNRWA, are you saying that they operate in the manner you describe? From the UNRWA: ==+== The Palestine refugee (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) People that prize peace do not express themselves in terms of "complete military victory." And you think I make scarey comments? I think Israel already has complete superiority by way of arms. Why don't they just march on in and commit (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) The Palestinian people have been taught, almost since birth, to hate Israel and Jews. You can’t find a map in a Palestinian school that shows the nation of Israel. The hatred is deep and intense … and no negotiations or negotiated peace (...) (22 years ago, 18-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Y'know, these ad hominem attacks are quite annoying. Do y'all think you improve understanding of a pointedly pro-Israel perspective without providing any kind of REAL argument to favor your views? James' original assertions were tripe, practically (...) (22 years ago, 17-Apr-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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