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  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) I'm certainly not an atheist, but if I were to decide to choose "sides" in this very small, very insignificant disagreement, I would have to side with him. Little footnotes at the end of a message just aren't that big a deal, especially worded (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas
 
(...) I don't mention this to be overly agumentative, but the celebration(s) that were common during the Christmas-time of year were around long before Christ. While there were several festivals during the latter half of December in Rome, focusing (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: lugnet.religion.flame
 
(...) Idea -- don't subscribe to lugnet.off-topic.debate. (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: lugnet.religion.flame
 
(...) The various religious debates hold no interest for me, but I actually do read them some time. And I must say, I'd rather see them here than in a general discussion area. In fact, since people will inevitably have these sorts of discussions, (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) Neither. I don't think that jumping down Larry's throat because he celebrates Christmas because it's fun, was appropriate in a discussion group about Lego trains. Matt (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas
 
Also sprach Steve Berry: : Christmas, like it or not folks, is a CHRISTIAN holiday. It exists because : Christ is the savior and this is the day we celebrate his birth. We don't : celebrate Christmas because of decorated trees, lights or over-weight (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas
 
Steve Berry wrote in message ... (...) would. (...) in (...) Yes, it must have been originated as you mentioned, but today almost whole world celebrates it and give gifts to their firedns, and make holiday. aand this occurs regardles from any (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  lugnet.religion.flame
 
I just want to say how disappointed I am to see this conversation show up here. It happens in general discussion groups all over usenet; one crusader who won't hush until he makes everyone bow to his creator. Those of you who thought that lugnet (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas
 
I guess that I have to speak up for Steve on this one..... Steve thanks for speaking out, you are not alone on the RTL ........ Jesus, he is the reason for the season......... George Sikora Steve Berry wrote in message ... (...) would. (...) in (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
Also sprach Steve Berry: : No offense, but could you be taking Larry's side on this because he comes : close to your own ideological stance on this issue? Or, is it because, as you : say, footnoting something divisive in a Trains newsgroup is o.k.? (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) even >though he doesn't believe in the Christ part? Sure, if that had been the topic (...) Matt, No offense, but could you be taking Larry's side on this because he comes close to your own ideological stance on this issue? Or, is it because, (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  My version -- The meaning of CHRISTmas
 
Now that Larry has defined the "True meaning of Christmas," I thought I would. Christmas, like it or not folks, is a CHRISTIAN holiday. It exists because Christ is the savior and this is the day we celebrate his birth. We don't celebrate Christmas (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) Jim, frankly, I think you're as close-minded as you say I am. I always get a kick out of how liberals and atheists always say how open-minded they are, yet as soon as someone of a Christian persuasion or someone from a different ideological (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
Also sprach Steve Berry: : Anyway, I can't speak for other people with SIGS, but I make it a point not to : voice or interject my personal beliefs in discussions unrelated to those : beliefs. I have to disagree with you here, Steve (and stick up for (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) I have to side with Larry on this one. He's building a <Christmas> Lego Train, why can't he add a footnote to explain why he's building a Christmas train even though he doesn't believe in the Christ part? Sure, if that had been the topic of (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
 
(...) I know, and the opportunities exist for me to return without hassle. It has been considered on a few occassions, too. (...) Thanks! (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
(...) No, I just didn't think it was called for or necessary in a discussion about LEGO trains. And regarding the off-topic threads on your beliefs, I wasn't even aware they were going on since I don't normally read the off-topic newsgroup. Maybe I (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  The meaning of Christmas (was Re: Christmas Train update
 
I said: (...) Many other people sign their appends with "<><", bible verses, etc. Every append, mind you, not just once in a while. I don't sign my appends "I'm an atheist", but I guess I could start. Nor have I suggested that people should take (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
 
<366E0FD1.67876FA4@c...OSPAM.com> <3664BF87.5043@writeme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (...) This is a subtle point but an important one. Life is a series of choices and trade offs. Every waking (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fixing the world (was Re: Ldraw cannon
 
Larry Pieniazek wrote (...) You're using a specific and unconventional definition of "selfish", most often used IME by evolutionary biologists and geneticists (both meat and virtual). To most of us "selfish" is similar to arrogant or unempathetic - (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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