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  Standard of debate
 
Standard of debate I will be the first to admit that at times the standard of debate around here is very poor. My own personal dislike is subjectivity dressed up as objectivity. Others point out that the petty name calling is childish – I agree, but (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  This really is a low form of debate
 
(...) Larry, I can't believe you are calling be a liar again. This really is a low form of debate. Give an example of were I have lied. I challenge you. Do it or apologise. If I have lied, I will apologise. Once you have done that, answer these: Re: (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cuba is a terrorist state (was Re: Any truth in this one - Cuba as a terrostist state.
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GL6rMI.4nw@lugnet.com... (...) Or perhaps you could also ask the question how many sympathisers to thier cause do you need in the US government? Or how many votes might be lost if (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cuba is a terrorist state (was Re: Any truth in this one - Cuba as a terrostist state.
 
<Snip> Here is the US government reasoning for who is on the list and who is off. Note that this material well predates 911. (URL) is a section of (URL) found the list of FTOs interesting. (URL) how intertwined they all seem to be. The site alleges (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More on Palestine
 
(...) Do you have a cite for that? (...) Surrender to the Russians would have been unacceptable. We had set goals for this war and it is important to set goals and stick to them. Our current little war is somewhat lacking in concrete measurable (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cuba is a terrorist state (was Re: Any truth in this one - Cuba as a terrostist state.
 
(...) That's fine... here's a question though: How many years have to go by before you're off the hook, if there has been no change in regime and no repudiation or reparation? Where I am going with this is, suppose (hypothetically) it has been (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cuba is a terrorist state (was Re: Any truth in this one - Cuba as a terrostist state.
 
(...) Cuban advisors and troops were all over the place, but regardless of how you slice it, it wasn't terrorism. For some reason people are quick to denounce terrorism, and then they can't quite define it--what's military action, and what's (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: We are letting the terrorists win
 
(...) My wife dropped some folks off at an AMtrak station yesterday and noticed that Amtrak is requiring photo id to board a train now. AFAIK, you only needed it if you were picking up tickets that you ordered online or over the phone. -chris (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) this is a major problem at the university that I attend. Last year when I was a teaching assistant for a large intro class, we had the following protocol for preventing cheating in this form: 1. students may only enter from the back/top (...) (23 years ago, 14-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Cuba is a terrorist state (was Re: Any truth in this one - Cuba as a terrostist state.
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GL1qAq.MvA@lugnet.com... (...) A UK Minister has now called for Cuba to be taken off the list of terrorist states (URL) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More on Palestine
 
(...) I think Horst may have been talking about this one (URL) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More on Palestine
 
(...) Perhaps the proper weapon WAS used but WHOM it targeted is the issue here. It was the wrong thing to do. Eisenhower thought the same too. (...) Actually, it IS an historical fact that the Japanese were tapped out and were in the process of (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Hmm, Larry, I think you fired that off without thinking about it, or you're being obtuse. My circumstances have a great deal to do with how hard I work, yes. That applies, in a relative degree, to virtually everyone on the planet (work (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian comes through for the Terrorists
 
I agree with the basic point (since it's in support of mine) but must offer this correction... (...) Currently a voluntary forfeiture. At times in our history it was involuntary, since we had conscription. Libertarians oppose conscription, of (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Libertarian comes through for the Terrorists
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ed Jones writes: <snip> (...) This is not a good example. In the U.S. military, any "freedom" allotted, is merely a luxury. This from my own personnal experiance in the U.S. Navy for four years. Life in the service is (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) there (...) I'd re-word that "...competence at making a reasonable product and marketing it well," (...) Again, I'd say reasonable, not necessarily superior. Depends what features you're comparing, what you need to do. And they're (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Hmm. I'd agree with your ratios, but I'd nudge them around until there was room to add "25% over-estimating the efficiency (and under-estimating the cost) of e-business" A lot of the crash was due to assumptions about what costs were involved (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: More on Palestine
 
(...) Can you give me a link? I can't find it at the mo. But I am not sure there is much more to say. Using the proper weapon for the job against a determined, and ultimately evil, adversary is *not* terrorism. The world would have been a much (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Paid for by whom? Government sets up systems but should not be providing goods. What is the value of a life, by the way? Don't answer infinite, that's the wrong answer and will give you silly results. The proper functions of goverment in a (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) MS is not a monopoly. It has competitors, and effective ones at that. MS is dominant in certain market segments but since there are few or no barriers to entry other than MS competence at making good product, the net result of MS dominance (...) (23 years ago, 13-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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