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(...) I had heard 1.0 B, or 1/5 (which is 1.2 and increasing I guess)... (...) (1) What do you (or, most especially, others) think of this: (URL) seems to be advancing a number of arguments that taken together say that islam is NOT peaceful, or at (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | More on Palestine
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Because this is an Israel Palestine thread now, I thought I'd toss this in: (URL) this (URL) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would agree with that. However I expect the truth value of what the coalition says to be a bit higher (they will omit rather than lie, I would expect... not always, but much more than the Taleban) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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(...) Hey, everything has its drawbacks. Even horses pollute. For that matter, so do cyclists... -- Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: PA censoring journalists again, but repudiating bin Laden...
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(...) I think this may be a bit of a stretch, Dan, and saying it isn't going to convince many people of the justness of your cause. By the way, I think I may have missed your answer to my question about the original UN resolution creating Israel. (I (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Hold your fire?
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Hello Larry, (...) I am equally undecided in my judgement of what is going on. ;-) The good news is: Four weeks after 911, there has been no overreaction. Instead, diplomatic pressure really seems to have had a significant effect. Enough to NOT (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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Hello Larry, you must be really opposed to ANY type of regulation, if this is the type of argument you use: (...) No regulation ever solves any problem 100% completely. But don't you think there would be a lot MORE unsafe drivers on the road WITHOUT (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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Hello Chris, (...) Why should they? They will probably make sure that whoever drives on them will be held liable for what he does to the road. But why should the road company care for other drivers? (...) Unless companies are shielded from their (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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| | Re: War
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Hello Scott, while I agree to some thoughts of your analysis, I have to oppose this one: (...) In no way does bin Laden or the Taliban stand for more freedom. Look at Iran and, even worse, Afghanistan. Only the leaders are enjoying freedom there. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: War
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Hello Chris, (...) Making money is not one of your freedoms? Or you don't make money a the expense of the one worldwide environment we have? You pay fair prices for the goods you import from the third world? There are no people starving in Somalia, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea?
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(...) You can't really mean that, can you? (...) Yes. Give the state sponsors of terrorism a seat too, that seems fair to me. ++Lar (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Freedom vs. Wellfare
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Hello Larry, (...) Now, this is exactly where we differ. While you seem to always look at the situation from the imprisoned father's perspective, I see the child to be an innocent victim of the father. And if you feel as a victim just because you (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Gotta love Oracle...
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Hello Chris, (...) And you really feel more private then? They will even be able to know which types of products you buy. Theoretically. (...) Maybe it's different in the US, but here not everyone HAS a driver's license. I don't see much difference (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
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Hello Chris, (...) I understand that this is the current situation. But why would you want to maintain it exactly this way? What makes driving different from bearing arms? Why is it acceptable to require permission for one but not the other? (...) (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Hold your fire?
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(...) Scott, I know of the work of Human Rights Watch, but who funds eurasianet? I couldn't find any references on their site. Thanks. There are dozens of tribes in the region and you can't tell who's doing what to whom without a detailed scorecard. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: PA censoring journalists again, but repudiating bin Laden...
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(...) Really? I'd say a bunch of foreigners invading, terrorizing and running out the native population in the name of religion is pretty bad. Bulldozing those people's homes--pretty bad. Mortar attacks, helicopter gunship attacks, cluster bombs, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Anyone else think this is a bad idea?
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Every country in the U.N. Secruity Council has dirt under the nails, Syria is no better or worse. Actually, having Syria there is may at least "balance the ticket" in a way. Syria has also been the victim of Israeli occupation so obviously Israel (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Anyone else think this is a bad idea?
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(URL) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: PA censoring journalists again, but repudiating bin Laden...
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(...) Come now Dan. If OBL did do this. And some Palestinians do support him. I think saying some Palestinians *resent* America is putting it lightly. (...) Israel is bad Dan. Israel is very bad. They are not quite as bad as the Taliban. Although it (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snipped> It's all one big, ugly mess. However, it comes as no surprise to me that some Palestinians, after years of American supported Israeli occupation and brutality, would praise Bin Laden. It would be different if America WAS actually (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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