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  Re: Fatwah
 
(...) There are somewhere between 1.25 and 2.0 billion Muslims on the planet. I am lucky enough to know some of them. I read the sliver of text you quoted. I think about my experiences. I think about my understanding of Islam. Based on that alone I (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) The latter. If something has been incorrectly subsidised in the past the solution is not to jack up the subsidies of everything else you can find that remotely competes with it. Highways and airtransport have been unfairly subsidised in the (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fatwah
 
(...) I'm NOT sure, hence I asked. My hunch is that you can go rooting through the New Testament, or especially the Old Testament, and find similar passages. My hunch is that you can go through the Koran or OT or NT and find very peaceful passages (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Do you have the right to pollute by means of an automobile? :) Scott A (A Car owning cyclist) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Actually, we do have the right to travel by modern conveyance -- a right recognized under common law since the time of Magna Carta. Applying this argument to the a.k.a. "driving privilege" is not too complicated -- getting the courts to (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Looks like the attacks on Kabul have started
 
Actually, I think he may have been somewhat sarcastic, as CNN has been doing live coverage since Sep. 11th. But that's just what I got from his post. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: And you thought a national ID card was scary...
 
Likely, only those passengers who take the "safe" flight would be ensured. The "unsafe" flights would quickly become a national security risk as any determined terrorist could take the "unsafe" plane and turn it into a missile. Oh, well, we knew (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Do you think Amtrak should get more than the $24B *subsidy* it has had since 1971, or do you think roads should get less *investment*? Scott A (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) What if? (...) No I don't. And those have to do (I believe) with children who are institutionally abused, more than with firearms. The firearm was a only tool...a means of expression. (...) say (...) Why is it that Europeans often start in (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fatwah
 
(...) What do you think? Are you even unsure? What is your hunch on this? Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  And you thought a national ID card was scary...
 
Well, OK some of you didn't think is was *that* scary. Check this out: (URL) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Oh, I agree with you, totally! He SHOULD NOT be driving. So then... you concede that since the state nevertheless issued him a license, that licenses don't work to keep unsafe drivers off the road, right? That's what the example is (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
 
  Re: 6776... Is this True?
 
(...) Ummm, 8007, 8008?? They actually encourage you to buy both so the storm-trooper can shoot C3PO in the chest, and watch it's (OK it *is* a 'droid) head & arms get blown off. ROSCO (disclaimer: yes I own both, yes I think the mechanism is neat, (...) (23 years ago, 8-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Hold your fire?
 
(...) The article seems a bit myopic, lacking in a historical perspective. The basically tribal societies of Afghanistan and indeed the five central Asian former Soviet states could continue see-sawing for centuries. The U.S. and Osama conflict (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Fatwah
 
(...) I also dunno about the context thing, but further down in the article "Crusaders" are mentioned to be "terrorizing" the people living in Arabia. Obviously, it is an interpretation made by people who must think the 12th century isn't over yet (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) And what would it be done to prevent fraud, then? (...) So why not put a 5-year-old driving a Humvee, if his father can pay for the damage? As for the case of the old man, it is up to him and his family to provide alternatives - this way he (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) What if the permit is almost granted to be issued, unless one is declared "unfit"? (by a number of reasons, including possibly being a lunatic or a terrorist) (...) And then you get really shocked about stuff like Columbine, Waco, or that (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Horst Lehner writes: (Snipped) (...) Horst, I couldn't agree much more! Add "Portugal" to that paragraph, please... Pedro (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Gotta love Oracle...
 
(...) Maybe... but then again, it is highly unlikely that any portuguese hasn't had ancestors of different races/ethnicites, thus noone can pick on me for that. Besides, names here are all alike, for all ethnicites. (...) Ah, fame... I can count (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.loc.pt)
 
  Fatwah
 
(URL) hadn't read this before. I also haven't read the Koran (there seem to be many possible spellings of this, I've also seen Qu'urran, for example) But this quote from the beginning of the fatwah HAS to be taken out of context, right? "But when (...) (23 years ago, 7-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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