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(...) A great explanation of this was given by Dave! (...) The original cite of "debunk this" deconstructs the UN statistics. Statistics have a way of getting cited and re-cited, and those cites get recited by those that want the statistics to be (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So you are comfortable with fixing the past mistakes we made in supporting the thugs in Iraq and then in leaving the job undone the first time we had a chance to clean up the mess, then? The implication of that, of course, is that you support (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <snip> Excellent list. It is a real tragedy that this country is currently run by a thuggish gang (which we had too large a hand in putting in place for my taste, and which we could have removed in 1991 were it not for those advocating that we (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Incorrect. Suffering of children is never "justified". My argument merely demonstrates that their suffering is not the *fault* of the US, just as the suffering of FB Jr (while not "justified") in not having his wants satisfied is not the (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GKou8D.K9v@lugnet.com... (...) I don't think your argument stands one bit. You were trying to use this as justification as to why Iraqi children should suffer, because of the crimes (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have heard this as well. Problem is hindsight is 20/20. Who knew in 1996 that bin Laden would have become the bane of our existance as he is today? Who is to say that taking him out in 1996 would have prevented anything? Its nice to think (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not necessarily "would have" in all cases, and most assuredly not "should have". It is *not* the duty of the state to ensure that everyone is cared for. That your state has chosen to do that (the will of the majority imposed on all funds it) (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) There is a HUGE difference between "no evidence" ("any evidence") and "no conclusive evidence". That was a very serious omission on your part, I'm afraid. We convict people of crimes based on strong circumstantial evidence all the time... not (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Neat. I wonder what play it was to use They Might Be Giants songs... Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul not Constantinople So if you've a date in Constantinople She'll be waiting in Istanbul. (I'll confess just about my favorite (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So take me back to Constantinople No you can't go back to Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks. I seem to recall my mother singing that silly song in (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) As most other people are saying, its your world, your story. Do what you want with it. Why does the "New Byzantine Army" *have* to have anything to do with the original empire? They could just be trying to make a connection to an ancient and (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Scratch that "recommendation." That's not what I meant to put across--rather that if anything *had* to be changed, I'd change something else before the name. I really do like the name. (Thus the :D...) But again, it's your universe, and so (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That's an interesting point. An alternate universe where either a) the Byzantines held out or b) the Byzantine leadership took the reins of Islam--like Christian emperors of Rome--and married Islam to the Greco-Roman tradition? Then you might (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, I really liked the *name*. I didn't see your explanation for the formulation of the subdivision itself. My suggestion, if it's even possible, would be to reformulate the backstory of its composition and make it, say, an agglomeration (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not so much the Turks but the Ottomans under Mehmet II (the Conqueror). Theirs was the real administrative revolution that made the final conquest of Byzantium by the Turks possible. IMHO, anyways, given that the Anatolian hinterland had been (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Man Mladen, give the guy a break. Sure, the geography is off, his story will have nothing to do with the Byzantine Empire, or the radicals which want to recreate it, or its old enemyis which still exist (ex: Bulgaria). But guess what, it (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't change a story because people have negative feelings about it. Post disclaimers if you wish, but unless the story itself is somehow inciting people, don't change it. Even if people criticise the story itself, to do so violates your own (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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snip (...) Ok, did anyone else find it "out of place?" cuz then I think I will change it, if more people have negative feelings about it then I think it would be appropriate to change it. -Geordan- (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No prob. ;-) (...) Islamic (...) Army" (...) that I (...) sounded (...) logical (...) middle (...) make (...) No, of course not! I just wanted to hear your "explanation" or reasoning. The "New Byzantine Army" still, IMHO, is a *BIG* misnomer. (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hi Mladen, thanks for voicing your opinion, (...) Yes I learned all about that last year... (...) It's my own made up story, this story isn't meant to be based on any thing that I think even *might* happen, The reason for the name was simply (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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