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Byzantine Brokering by Byzantium
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Thu, 4 Oct 2001 05:21:28 GMT
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In lugnet.build.mecha, Mladen Pejic writes:
> Okay...
>
> Lame history lesson ON:
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> The Byzantine empire was an Eastern Roman/Greek empire. The capital was
> Constantinople, which is now modern-day Istanbul, capital of Turkey (an Islamic
> country). Constantinople fell to the Turks in 1453.
Not so much the Turks but the Ottomans under Mehmet II (the
Conqueror). Theirs was the real administrative revolution that
made the final conquest of Byzantium by the Turks possible.
IMHO, anyways, given that the Anatolian hinterland had been
long, long, long gone.
I'd also proffer that the *real* Roman empire always had its
cultural center in the Greek world. The core of the Latin
region aside, the rest of the Western Roman Empire was over-
whelmingly rural, rural, rural, a temple, rural, rural, a road,
rural, rural, some sheep, maybe a small settlement, and rural.
> The Byzantine empire doesn't EXIST anymore. It was ruled by an *Eastern
> Orthodox Church*.
Er, the house of Paleolagus, an Imperial house.
> Having said that, why in the world would all the middle-eastern countries
> (which are mostly populated by Muslims) combine and form a "New Byzantine Army"
> (as you call it)?
<idiom>
Maybe they have a very difficult time figuring out the chain
of command, and ordering office supplies is tremendously
convoluted and fraught with political intrigue? :D
</idiom>
Nevertheless, that still doesn't answer the "want" part of
the question.
(I myself have toyed with the possibility of a new Safavid
Caliphate, but I admit that with so much of the Persian ruling
class discredited or dead even today and the rest spread in a
diaspora about Europe and the Americas, that would be difficult.)
But I admit that the concept of a unified, modern Islamic
superstate is interesting--in fact, such an idea has a central
place in my .space Future History. I just need to formulate
a reasonable construct that would allow such a state to invent
itself outside the thrall of Western hegemony.
Oh, and "Byzantine" is just a cool word. Byzantine. Byzantine
Byzantine. Byzantine.
best
LFB
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| (...) So take me back to Constantinople No you can't go back to Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Why did Constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the Turks. I seem to recall my mother singing that silly song in (...) (23 years ago, 4-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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