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(...) Err...at the risk of being completely obtuse...I'm just curious: are you coming back to town this weekend? james, who doesn't know what either flechettes or tranqs are, but otherwise gets the point that firearm regulations under different (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. And a fully private system with airlines and airports each making individual decisions on this may well be significantly more complex to administer and track. At least at first. (hmm... I'm flying to Hobby today... that means pack my (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm still resolving that part of the issue for myself, but it puts me in mind of the other side of the coin: Since the airlines are primarily private corporations, and the aircraft are their property, they are well within their rights (correct (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(I accidentally e-mailed my reply, and I see Larry has already replied, but I'll add my thoughts anyway...) (...) issue, (...) By ensuring that private enterprise can be held accountable by free market means. This includes giving consumers free and (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not I *M* O, though. See Friedman. "Heavy regulations" are not required, just full consequence facing. Current corporate law shields officers from culpability. We've had this discussion before. Nothing has changed my view. (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Debunk this?
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(...) Really? (...) You didn't answer that question. (...) Still waiting on an answer to that. (...) What about it? (...) We should. (...) It wasn't and it should be undone. Which I have said before. ++Lar (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. (...) Yes. (...) Yes. Or armed passengers if the airline so chooses. (...) No. But it should also not shield airlines from lawsuits for negligence and wrongful death if the airlines don't put sufficent standards and safeguards in place. (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Special Identification for Arab Americans?
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GK7ptp.Ftt@lugnet.com... <snip> (...) corner. (...) this. GWB even used the word "crusade" in one speech, which must have gone down well when translated for the Arab press. Using "war" was (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Special Identification for Arab Americans?
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:GK77vG.7wL@lugnet.com... (...) Hmmm....didn't a certain European country during the 1930s adopt a similar stratergy for Jews? You see where I'm going with the arguement to this.... (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Larry: I agree with you on principle here, but my question is how we can remove the incentive to cut corners from private enterprise when public safety is at issue, yet still maintain a true free-market enterprise? IMO, we just cannot really (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You did not pose a question(?). What is your point? (...) But what about international law? Why not apply the same rule to settlers in the USA? How fair was the way some them got their land? Scott A (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You are wriggling. What about the cases where the airport is private, you think they should set their own levels of security? Do you oppose the plan to place government air marshals in planes? Do you think private security guards would be (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Presumably it was me, but whether it was or not (I forget and you gave no link so I can't check without searching) I agree with it. Nothing inconsistent there with my stance on airline security or airport security either. The airlines ought to (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What is MY point? My point is that you have no point and you haven't answered the question. (...) So you agree Israel has a right to exist, then? I suspect (but can't confirm since Dan hasn't said) Dan does not feel that way at all. Myself I (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: What we can do... (my 2 cents)
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(...) Yeah, but it was an *English* storm... Dave! (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.pirates)
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(...) I believe the mizzen mast was lateen rigged on the Nina, as on many ships until the gaff-rigged sail comes along (ahhh, the Armada Flagship, now available from Lego S@H). I love putting lateen sails on my Lego ships - I keep meaning to cut my (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.pirates)
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(...) My mistake. 1st point I don't feel I twist your words, but I think you do twist my own. The way you do this is to quote me out of context. 2nd point. I did not say wars could not be fought without death did I? (...) I don't follow. (...) (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) What is your point? Are you saying the none of the land Israel is on legally belongs to them. I agree that some of it does not, but I am pretty sure some of it does. Scott A (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think you have to *read* it to decide if you agree with the general idea or not, that the UN had the power to decide that Palestine was to be partitioned, and designated each partition as a homeland for someone. I'm not sure I agree (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, that's why I brought it up in the first place... There are people working to try to influence the legislature NOT to do that. But in a time of hysteria, when laws are made up in one day and then passed that same day or the next by (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: 6776... Is this True?
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(...) Yes, but Union vs. Indians has a clear adverserial implication. It might not offend you or I, but how would a Native American kid feel about it? (...) But that is very simplified history. Our country should absolutely be appalled at the crimes (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: 6776... Is this True?
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(...) Union vs. Indians = White vs. Black. Chess sets have always had two sides. Neither color was ever considered good or bad. Why does a Chess set with two opposing sides mean that anyone in particular is bad/wrong. The union and the indians DID (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Special Identification for Arab Americans?
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(...) ignore the comment below. I mis-read the comment above. Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I fear I have allowed myself to be misunderstood. I was a little bemused by that news story it shows a degree of clumsiness on both sides. However, as Mr Straw was visiting the Middle East to speak Iran, I am sure it was not detrimental to (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: War
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(...) I was a little bemused at the response to that. QT audiences are usually selected to represent UK political opinion. If the BBC did do that, they can hardly complain at the outcome! I agreed with a good deal of what was said I just did not (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Lack of the "usual standard" does not equal "no standard". Lifting the "current restriction" does not equal "no restriction". But even if you paranoia was well founded (I don't mean the stuff about the black helicopters). Surely you (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Thinking Out Loud...
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(...) In the former quote above he calls for restraint. In the latter quote above he can't wait for action. Read his latter comments in context: ==+== The aggressor has made the mistake of attacking the homeland. They will pay. If I were Saddam (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: War
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(...) how (...) internal (...) I never said I know what to fix, or that the debate was needless. You said now is not the time for examining policies, I think it is, whether or not other action is taken concurrently. (...) Sure. I just disagree with (...) (23 years ago, 28-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: Special Identification for Arab Americans?
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Hello Larry, (...) To me, it seems they are also islamistic, so whatever government they could come up with will probably not be fair to our standards. The question of course is: Does it have to? Or is it enough they don't support international (...) (23 years ago, 26-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) All true... but I still believe that the concept behind the lateen sail (triangle + rotation around mast) allowed travelling against the wind, unlike square sails - better for back-winds (no pun intended). And I'm not sure if ALL the sails in (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Agree. I would suggest that the Arab influence on western culture is best noted in Iberian cultures (Spain and Portugal), since the Arab presence on the Peninsula lasted some 781 years. In fact, it ended shortly before Columbus reached America (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yup. (...) Well, how about Arab History Month? The Arabs have made abundant contributions to civilization throughout history in areas such as mathematics, astronomy, medicine, engineering, architecture, art, philosophy, music, literature, and (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I want to thank you all for your support. I was truely surprised to find out how well "spotlighted" my article was! Well, as an update, the President hasn't responded, but he still hasn't bombed anyone either, so maybe it helped. -Alfred (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GKBx4v.AL2@lugnet.com... (...) Is it possible to find an 'independent' source of news? I guess independent could imply unbiased, as opposed to indepenent of anything else. But doesn't unbiased (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: War
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(...) Ah ha! I have smoked out a daily Telegraph reader (most things are left wing to them)! ;-) Scott A (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ignorance is bliss. I said "can" not "is". (...) Even take their guns away? Scott A (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Heh, a coworker wrote this on a whiteboard in the lab: # rm -f /bin/laden :) I just thought it's funny, but FUT set to debate, incase one flares up :) Dan (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dave!: Here we come to the great defeater of your argument: The existence of Baseball is final and convincing proof that a Loving and Good God does in fact exist. I defy you to postulate any theoretical universe in which Baseball, in all its (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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|In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Ian Warfield writes: | |>Let me restate my position this way: | |>The theory of evolution states that these organisms developed of their own |>accord, by means of spontaneous, large-scale genetic mutations in a (...) (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:GKB7Hq.1wt@lugnet.com... (...) LOL Surely BBC=Left Wing Rag? regards lawrence (23 years ago, 27-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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