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  Re: Evil, attack on freedom and democracy
 
(...) Yes, best to work on that spelling. It can lead to some nasty errors. (...) It's neither reasoned nor coherent, so I definitely don't. It sounds like rather self-absorbed anti-American essentialization that's based on tortured logic, willful (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Some other perspectives on the tragedy
 
(...) Correction: Terrorists are *made.* They're not born that way. It takes a *lot* of perceived injustice for someone to cross that line. If we want to stop terrorism, we have two choices: understanding and the rule of law or militarization and (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Some other perspectives on the tragedy
 
(...) OK. I just can't let this go. Its absolutely absurd to say things like this! (...) This sounds pretty similar to "No jews=supreme Aryan state" to me. (...) Who are you threatening to "take down"? Some random muslim perhaps? Or maybe the whole (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Evil, attack on freedom and democracy
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tore Eriksson writes: <snip> Genitals, not gentiles. I doubt that many people on this forum will appreciate your statement, let alone it's timing. Setting aside all the Biblical references, in plain terms our nation is (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Evil, attack on freedom and democracy
 
In the middle of my summer vacation, I heard that the American company that has just recently purchased the production plant I'm working in, has decided to shut it down. 508 people will lose their jobs, and I am of course one of them. At the same (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: In light of Tuesday's events (was Re: Are we doing the right thing?)
 
(...) You mean like when I wrote that when less hostile opportunities to improve the situation are present, they are a better choice? My statements were not all inclusive. I can see how you might, looking to be annoyed, take my stance to be what (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: In light of Tuesday's events (was Re: Are we doing the right thing?)
 
(...) However, your logic does not allow for "under some circumstances" but rather points to ALL circumstances. Following on from your earlier example of you, your children, a bus driver and an avalanche, whether you think Tuesday's events are (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Bin Laden being held?
 
I take this with a grain of salt (no link to the original article), but interesting none-the-less. (URL) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Good editorial from Canada PLEASE READ
 
(...) Vietnam, Korea. Many soldiers from many countries fought & died in these places to help America in a cause many (including Americans) believed was unnecessary. ROSCO (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: About the pending (inevitable) debates
 
(...) This is my wish as well. Please, folks, think of our URL. Your words will live forever on the LEGO Users Group Network website. All bigger principles aside, I'd hate to think that a LU may become offended and turn away. If you must debate (...) (23 years ago, 13-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: In light of Tuesday's events (was Re: Are we doing the right thing?)
 
(...) The same. The fact that I am 40 miles from the site of the World Trade Center, and have spent more of the past 36 hours crying than a grown man is "supposed" to, doesn't change the logic one bit. I still hold that under some circumstances (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Good (!) editorial from Canada PLEASE READ (done)
 
(...) Not a catch. He's referring to 1906--although, to be honest, that's not much different functionally from mentioning the Chicago Fire. That would definitely be one of those naive points. It's definitely a 1973 production, though. I found more (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: About the pending (inevitable) debates
 
(...) P.S. I also should have said thank you to Tore and the others who DID indeed hold off on the debates over the attacks yesterday and last night...I appreciate it, and I'm sure many others do too...Thank you... Matt (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Plane crash in New York?
 
It's passed 01:00 AM here in Sweden, and I'd better try to get some sleep. Now that I have a green light, I am too tired to compose an understandable answer. :o) For tonight, I only repeat what I said before: No, I don't have the answer to this. All (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Good (!) editorial from Canada PLEASE READ (done)
 
(...) Sure, I realize that. And discarded that chance. In 1906 WHO ON EARTH could have responded to tha SF earthquake with help (in useful time, that is)??? If he was talking about that quake, he is far more innocent than I thought... Besides, was (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Good (!) editorial from Canada PLEASE READ (done)
 
(...) Surely you realize that San Francisco has had earthquakes before 1989? Also, technically the 1989 quake wasn't centered in San Francisco, but in Loma Prieta, certainly close enough to be felt. (URL) could have been referring to the 1906 quake, (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  About the pending (inevitable) debates
 
(...) To Tore and all of the others either already debating or chomping at the bit to do so, No one is stopping the debate, that much is obvious. Neither can we or should we. It's against the LUGNET ToU and human nature. Yesterday I asked that the (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Good (!) editorial from Canada PLEASE READ (done)
 
In lugnet.loc.pt, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes: (snipped) (...) Eh eh, I wrote just about the same concerning Airbus (I did not read your post until i posted mine...). There is a catch, though: The earthquake. It was 5 years after the writer's (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Good but old editorial
 
(...) Sounds like it to me.Still has many good points. (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Good (!) editorial from Canada PLEASE READ (done)
 
(...) Well, first of all, he doesn't know about European aerospace company Airbus, which produces airliners (and is in fact comparable to Boeing in its output). He dwells on 1950s and 1960s events, and doesn't even mention later events, even when (...) (23 years ago, 12-Sep-01, to lugnet.loc.pt, lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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