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  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
Tom Stangl, VFAQman wrote: Tom, what kind of science fiction universe do you live in? ;) (...) How many samples would you need from each species? What is a species, for that matter? Would you need samples through time or would just a single period (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Absolutely. Coops are wonderful for lots of things. But then there isn't really a common, since the resource that might have otherwise been common is now owned by the coop. So you're basically solving the ToC issue the same way that the (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I'm thinking that's an insult. All I did was express a reasonable idea. :-) (...) I think Shiri suggested that she'd like to see PT subsidized ahead of cars. That is _so_ the wrong way to handle this. We just need to unsubsidize cars: (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Great! I'd prefer to see it done through private works, but if our government wanted to be involved, surely we could offer Mexico stuff in exchange for the land that they would value more. (...) Are there any left? I'm fine with that too, but (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
(...) :-) (...) But to what extent? I don't happen to agree with you, but I understand it. But to what extent? If a cow or a person, but only one, will survive then you pick the person. Fine. What if the person wants to wipe out a species so that (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Alternatively the users of the common could determine what the maximum usage level is. Rather that competing against each other, they could invest in sheep together, via some sort of co-op, and take advantage of the common that way. However, I (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
(...) Which facts in particular? The piece seemed largely devoid of facts. (...) He seems to have skyscraper succesion down pat. (...) There's nothing to believe. No. By whom? (...) I don't know about anyone else, but I already knew that kooks were (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
(...) the most disgusting pieces of religious conservative propoganda I've ever read. I'd say more, but it would probably be a TOS violation. ;) (...) Not to mention a basic lack of respect towards other creatures on this planet. To me, he is (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Yes and no. The standard Libertarian answer applies well to the standard example... sheep overgrazing a commons can be remediated by having someone (or a group of someones) own the formerly common area and controlling how many sheep graze (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
(...) The dialogue in The Matrix is classic in this respect, comparing humanity to a virus... . . . WARNING - harsh reality follows, don't read it if you are soft at heart or can't deal with a little adversity.... . . . . <dons flameproof underwear> (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) NO, you won't actually. It will have to be cheaper AND more convenient. Too many public transportation systems are"broken" in that you have to use your CAR to get to them in the first place. There was an article in the SJ Merc last week or the (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
What I think about this editorial can't really be described in words appropriate for this forum, but this guy's constant use of negative adjectives to describe a group of people concerned about taking action in situations that don't involve their (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Chris's in general never cease to amaze me... <grin>... and you two both just did. (...) Arguably? *Arguably*?! I mean, show me anything else with greater threat. (...) <nod> I wish the government(s... all over the world) would invest in (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) Chris, you never cease to amaze me. :) IMO, The automobile is arguably the greatest threat to environmental and social quality, and is probably one of the most subsidized sectors of the world's economy. I was able to explain and demostrate (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I'm more amazed 2500 economists agreed on something. :) (...) I'm having trouble coming up with an example that shows how government regulation can protect something, at least one that is not mired with economics and other ideas. It's also (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) so sad... (...) what does the Libertarian think of the tradegy of the commons? Is it addressed? (...) Go Vegetarian! Just kidding ;) I'm pretty sure fishing regulations don't extend into nternational waters. There are some species that are (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Rolling Blackouts
 
(...) I think there is a major push to buy up many of the sites in Mexico. (...) This is largely what I expected we would come up. I'm all for protecting as many species/ecosystems as we can in developed/developing areas but, and I may be taking (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  what do you think of editorals regarding the environment?
 
This syndicated column appear in today's issue of the Toledo Blade: (URL) have never before in my life seen such misunderstanding and miscommunication of facts in a single editorial. Disregarding the authors philosphical points, he has almost (and (...) (23 years ago, 30-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
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  Re: I'm back... (Clarified! )
 
(...) Yes. I defintely should've moved it to off-topic.debate sooner ;) (23 years ago, 29-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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