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Re: When is "Not an Auction" really an auction?
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Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:40:57 GMT
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In lugnet.market.theory, Steve Martin writes:
> In lugnet.market.theory, Derick Bulkley writes:
> > Be warned: serious ranting below.
> >
> > I'm awfully tired of notices posted to marketplace.buy-sell-trade, stating
> > something like:
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> > "big Lego for sale.. ...this is NOT an auction... ...highest offer received
> > after..." etc.
> >
> >
> > This isn't an auction? It sure is the heck isn't a sale for pete's sake!
> >
> > In fact, the American Heritage Dictionary defines an auction as follows:
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> > auc·tion (ôkshn) n.
> > A public sale in which property or items of merchandise are sold to the
> > highest bidder.
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> >
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> Actually, I just had a even screwier variation on this. I had an email
> solicitation that follows (minus identifying details):
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> My name is Chris. I have set 4555 Frieght Loading Station and 4537 Twin Tank
> Transporter, due to finances I have to sell them. If you are interested, the
> sets is sealed in the box and I can send you a picture if you would like. I
> have an ebay account, if you want to look at it, to give you a glance at my
> character, <email address deleted to protect the guilty> it is the same as my
> email address. I would like $80.00 for the 4555 and $70.00 for the 4537 and I
> will pay for shipping in the US. If interested in ether set please email
> back, if not just delete this message and look for my other lego auctions that
> I will be having soon on ebay. Or if interested I have other lego sets for
> sale.
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> Thank you for your time Chris
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> After replying that I was interested and receiving confirmation and where to
> send the check, but before I could actually send the check, I then got this
> email:
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> ------Original Message------
> From: "Chris" <email address deleted to protect the guilty>
> To: Steve Martin<martinsa@mail.com>
> Sent: December 2, 1999 12:09:05 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: Lego 4555 and 4537
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> Steve
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> I have had four other offers for the set, so I'm going to sell it to the
> highest bidder.
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> If you are interested for maybe $95 I will probably sell it to the first
> email.
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> Thanks for your time, Chris
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> To which I then replied:
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> Chris,
> This is a pretty crappy way to behave. If you are going to run an auction,
> run it as an auction. Don't send out individual emails to people saying that
> you will sell them a certain set for a given price then backout. Feels a lot
> like a store doing a bait and switch.
>
> Steve
>
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> So, was I over reacting or is this really bad manners on his part? I must
> admit I'm pretty pissed about the whole thing.
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> Steve Martin
I think your reaction was entirely justified. But being one of only a few
Chris' active on LUGNET and eBay I resent the potential bad publicity you have
given to anyone named Chris and any doubts you may have put in the mind of
anyone dealing with a Chris. I want to make it VERY clear that this was nothing
to do with me, and as I hope everybody who has had dealings with me will verify
- this is not the way I behave. I think my eBay feedback (cwdee) supports this.
Chris Dee
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Message has 4 Replies:
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| (...) nothing (...) verify (...) this. (...) I just wanted to back up Chris Dee's assertion that it wasn't him. I just used the person's first name so he would know (actually, I guess it could be a she) that it was him when he read it. But I didn't (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
| | | Re: When is "Not an Auction" really an auction?
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| (...) Agreed: Newbies take note, Chris is one of the good guys. If there were any tendency to not stick to deals, I would tend to say it shades in the "well I can't charge you that much after all, so let me do some discounting" direction... (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
| | | Re: When is "Not an Auction" really an auction?
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| (...) nothing (...) verify (...) this. (...) I will vouch for Chris. We had a deal completely outside of any sanctioned forum and he not only sent the items, he actually waited until I could afford the piece. That is class and a fine example of how (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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| | Re: When is "Not an Auction" really an auction?
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| (...) Actually, I just had a even screwier variation on this. I had an email solicitation that follows (minus identifying details): My name is Chris. I have set 4555 Frieght Loading Station and 4537 Twin Tank Transporter, due to finances I have to (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.market.theory)
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