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Re: Do you think there is a market for your MOCs on eBay? Please discuss...
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Sat, 19 Jan 2002 17:14:40 GMT
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In lugnet.market.theory, Doyle Nelson writes:
> In lugnet.market.theory, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.market.theory, Doyle Nelson writes:
> > > In lugnet.market.theory, Brian Kasprzyk writes:
> > > > In lugnet.market.theory, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > > > > In lugnet.market.theory, Paul Klenk writes:
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > >
> > > > > Posters have made a number of good points but I would like to point out that
> > > > > this topic has come up before and those interested may want to do some
> > > > > searching in market.theory where it tends to get discussed periodically...
> > > > > they may discover tidbits not mentioned in this iteration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please also note that Guild of Bricksmiths (not "Brick Guild") is a
> > > > > trademarked name and should have a TM after it when first mentioned (or
> > > > > somewhere on the page)... thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry Pieniazek, Bricksmith
> > > > > Guild of Bricksmiths(tm): www.bricksmiths.com
> > > > > Milton Train Works(tm): www.miltontrainworks.com
> > > >
> > > > Bricksmiths
> > > > Bricksmiths
> > > > Bricksmiths
> > > > Bricksmiths
> > > > Bricksmiths
> > > > Bricksmiths
> > > > Bricksmiths
> > > >
> > > > So sue me. How many times has Lego been written (even by you) without the
> > > > trademark symbol?
> >
> > By me? Not that many. You could look it up.
> >
> > > > BK>
> > >
> > > Sorry Larry,
> > >
> > > But I think I must agree with Brian. The(TM)thing was a "little"
> > > anal-retentive.
> >
> > Not by choice. Trademark law is clear on the point, which you, as a CEO,
> > should know.
>
> True, as you said below, larger companies sometime respond different than
> those who MUST protect their trademark to vulnerability.
>
> > If we want to protect our trademark (and we do, we've all put a lot into the
> > concept and it has value as a brand) we *have* to assert that it's a
> > trademark, which means using the TM. We can't just let it slide. And our
> > trademark is a lot more fragile than LEGO(tm), since we're a lot smaller.
>
>
> "And our trademark is a lot more fragile than LEGO(tm), since we're a lot
> smaller." LP
>
> Well said. :-) I hate when you do that! lol
>
>
> > Use of the trademark is also a good metric as to who are friends are. People
> > who deliberately misuse our name (wrong words or wrong word order) after
> > being corrected about it, people who make fun of it in a malicious way, and
> > people who omit the TM repeatedly (not inadvertantly, that's not such a big
> > deal, but people who stamp their feet and go na nana na na... how child
> > like!)... those people presumably are not friends to us or the concept.
>
> Correct, I never condoned deliberate misuse, and did not agree with Brian’s
> Temper Tantrum in anyway. And I am truly glad you specified if I or someone
> else were to make a mistake, that such an action would be overlooked.
> Personally though I don't think I'll forget. lol :-)
>
>
> > A few names on that list I'm glad of, I prefer to choose my friends and I
> > would never choose them. But most (like Brian K. the footstamper above) I'm
> > rather disappointed in.
> >
> > Trimmed FUT to just theory.
>
> I trust I'm not on that list of the malicious? lol
>
> Doyle
Interesting that you would call it a 'temper tantrum' without even knowing
me. My whole point was simply to point out that many of us out here on
Lugnet(tm) ;-) are tired of Larry and his 'know it all attitude' and
personal way of always trying to control EVERY SINGLE thread that goes
beyond 4. This is not the first, and I'm sure, not the last that people are
going to get irritated with Larry. I can recall over a dozen instances
where people, on this site, have complained about Larry and his 'policing of
Lugnet.' I also have nothing against the Guild of Bricksmiths(tm). They do
fabulous work, but so does the rest of the Lego(r) enthusiasts. Do I want to
be Larry's 'friend?' I haven't met him, so I can only go by the personality
he created for himself on Lugnet.
Who are you to judge and claim 'disappointment?' I have just as much right
to express my opinion as you do, with or without your consent. I also do
know a lot about implied trademarks versus registered trademarks. It is
generally considered 'polite' to include the (tm) or (r) after names, but
get real, this is a forum. You could go to any of a thousand message boards
and see every trademarked thing under the sun and 95% of them will not have
the (tm) or (r) included. The idea of a forum is to share ideas, not have
them critiqued by an english teacher or spend all day typing 1 post because
you included so many extra key strokes. Besides, most people on Lugnet know
exactly what group is being discussed when they see 'Bricksmiths,' 'The
Guild,' or 'Brick Guild.' So, get over yourself! We all know,
metaphorically speaking, who you are and understand your contributions to
the Lego world.
BK>
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