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Ultimately this may be the best thing to happen. There's some understanding
and a whole lot of us learned something from it. I wonder though, where do
you plan to go from here? Did the apology suffice? I suppose you could ask
for some of the money he took in from the auction. Probably unrealistic.
What happens now? I can see a legal disclamer on the website, but unless
you have the political and finacial muscle to back it up, why bother? It
becomes a hollow threat.
And, just to stir things up, what if the auctioned model was a convertable
instead of a hard top? Would it still have been an infringement? Meaning
the diablo looked exactly like Bram's except the builder left some parts off
to make it look like a convertable. The reason I mention it is that to
build the convertable version may take some extensive re-design. Now it may
be that simple, might not. I haven't seen one to know.
This whole thing is kind of bizzare. I do think you handled it very well Bram.
Mark
In lugnet.market.auction, Bram Lambrecht writes:
> Well, I contacted the seller, and he apologized. He admitted that he had been
> inspired by my model and built a similar car. Then, in order to get rid of
> some white parts and Ferrari wheels, he built another copy to sell. He
> mentioned that this was a one-time-only deal, and that he hadn't expected his
> actions to upset anyone. I had hoped he would close the auction or compensate
> me in some way for using my design, but it looks like an apology is all I can
> hope for. Hopefully in the future, he will be more careful about giving credit
> where credit is due.
> --Bram
>
>
> Bram Lambrecht
> bram@cwru.edu
> www.bldesign.org
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