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| | | Here's another eBay sale of a cheap S@H item for a ridiculous price: (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | (...) "Credit card orders add $2 convienece charge". Good for them rip off the poor and unsuspecting. Thats the way we like it :( . When does it all end... Eric K. Remove ".nospam" when replying by E-mail. The New England LEGO Users Group (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | | (...) have a (...) poor (...) I do believe that adding a surcharge is against the policy of all major credit card companies, and is grounds for cancellation of a merchant account. Or atleast it was when I had one... (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Paul Sinasohn
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| | | | | | Not any more. Look at Ticketmaster, and most of the NYC photography dealers in the back of Popular Photography. Or computer dealers in any Microtimes/Computer Currents. etc. Paul, who just got 2 free 3438s by purchasing a train track special (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Jodi Neal
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| | | | | Here's a real sad thought. Without realizing it, we have truely opened the doors to those who want to scam people on Ebay. There are over what 1800 items in Ebay Lego right now? Well it is a rareity that I read them all, so I might miss the great (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) $4.50 off 5 items on that page, which means he paid a whopping $1.60 for them including shipping. I just e-mailed the only bidder, but I fear it will be to late for him to retract his bid. I'm going to leave neutral feedback for this seller (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) I just sent off a sarcastic e-mail to eBay, which said (summing up) "Do you actively encourage sellers who screw people to get more money, or do you just not care?" It'll be interesting to see what kind of response I get, if any. James (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) I checked up on the whiner who mailed me outraged that I had left S@H's 800 number and a neutral comment for him. He responded to my comment by saying it was not appropriate for a user with a 5 feedback to do that. So eBay has a caste system (...) (25 years ago, 4-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | | (...) I think that there are serious flaws in the eBay feedback system, and that they leave us open to situation like this. Unfortunately, people seem to get a big head when they get a high rating. Does this mean that since I have a rating of 41, (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Yeah, but I think you can only leave negative (or positive) feedback if you actually complete a transaction with the person. (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | Kevin Wilson <70641.507@compuserve.com> wrote in message news:37F8E3BA.1E3595...rve.com... (...) least only one person got ripped off. Wehter or not they will realize that they did and leave negative feedback is another question though.... (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | At 11pcs, and an opening price of 9.99, that's almost $1 a piece... even the eBay loony buyers balk at that for a starting price I guess! Though some parts lots regularly sell at more than that per piece by the end of the bidding. Kevin (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Scott P. Costello
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| | | | | I am really curious as to why these over-ambitious capitalists are considered scam artists. None of these listings openly lie about the products, true they don't come out and advertise their competition, but they break no laws. These sellers are (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Rose Regner
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| | | | | | | (...) considered (...) they (...) These (...) between (...) bids, (...) spend. (...) but (...) to (...) number (...) Amen. A very nice way of saying what I have tried to say in the past. If a seller openly lies or even misleads, I have no problem (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) An email to a bidder with the S@H phone number is bid siphoning under eBay TOS. And eBay TOS applies to you whether you are registered as a bidder or seller or not. (it applies as of the moment you view the first eBay page, your viewing is (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I know you've said you feel constrained to abide by that ridiculous interpretation of the TOS, especially since you wish to continue to bid on things at eBay. But do you honestly think people who have no desire to register or use eBay are (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) There is a difference here. Your proposed TOS is saying that since you've visited us, you must pay. It would be like a store saying that now that you've come in the door, you must pay us. There is no opportunity to read to the contract before (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.theory)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —James Brown
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Hmm. Curiousity. What about e-mailing a bidder after the auction is over? What if you wait until the auction is over, and then provide neutral feedback? Could eBay legitimately gripe if I went out and bid on one of these 'rare' sets, and then (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) If you won the bid, it probably wouldn't be against the TOS to leave a comment that you felt swindled, but you would not have recourse to back out of the purchase because of this (note that even Todd doesn't allow this for Auczilla). Once you (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Mark Harrison
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| | | | | | | | Hey Larry, Send the bidders email address and details of where the item is cheaper to me and I'll email them. Everyone knows how much respect I have for ebay, stuff this TOS business. Mark H. (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | | (...) considered (...) they (...) These (...) between (...) bids, (...) spend. (...) but (...) "not available in stores" implies that you cannot get the set yourself. Also, did you see the editing on the image? I'm sure that there was a price or a (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | (...) Um, it's WORSE than the McD sets. It's not a limited time set, and the starting bid was 400% markup, and if the guy used the buy-5-save-$4.50 deal in the S@H catalogs, it was a 600% markup. Believe it or not, some of us PAID $11 for that McD (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | | | | (...) deal (...) I was refering to how misleading the auction was when I said it was worse the the McDonalds set auctions. I believe that the McDonald's auctions were much more misleading, atleast the ones that I saw were. Of course, based on just (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | (...) Now here's where you might have a legitimate beef. If the seller has modified the image, they are definitely violating fair use guidelines of TLG copyrighted material. Unfortuanately, eBay might not do anything unless TLG pursued the issue. Of (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | Troy Cefaratti wrote in message ... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) price (...) As Troy pointed out, the auction ((URL) mentions not available in stores. This is false advertising because I have personally purchased this set in a store. Granted that (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | (...) Good point. And this seller is a Powerseller and that paragraph I posted earlier *does* apply to him. Someone who doesn't care about their eBay status could complain (I am reluctant to do it myself because I sell a lot on eBay - with what I (...) (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) Did that yesterday. Unfortunately I did not e-mail him in time for him to retract his bid. (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | (...) If he agrees that the listing is misleading, he can refuse to pay and complain to eBay. Kevin (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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| | | | | Re: Another ebay scammer —Tom Stangl
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| | | | Pretty damn sad, especially since one person bought all 5. And I just ordered 4 of those today for a CDN RTLer for cost... (...) Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (25 years ago, 5-Oct-99, to lugnet.market.auction)
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