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In lugnet.admin.general, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
> That's what I thought...
> <puts on flame retardant suit>
> Why then did you post to .general [being for general interest] and not to
> .loc.us [for items of specific interest to US residents as opposed to the
> rest of the world]?
>
> After all...if I started saying that my local Kmart [neglecting to mention I
> live in Victoria, Australia] had X-Wings for $15 on clearance, and everyone
> around the US went to their local KMart and found that it wasn't there,
> there'd be all sorts of complaints.
IF you forgot to say that you were in Oz when you saw it. On the other hand
people post this all the time and others jump on it and arrange for some cross
border buying and selling. But your example is flawed as that post belongs
in .market.shopping, not in .general... and .market.shopping is a world wide
group.
> Therefore, I only post things regarding
> Aus in .loc.au and would expect others to act in a similar matter with their
> posts.
Well, I'm not sure I always agree with you there, Benjamin. It's important to
tag the country of origin, yes, but I know that i am interested in deals no
matter where they are in the world. If the deal is good enough and if it is a
set that I need badly enough, I make arrangements. Just ask David Drew, who
kindly has gotten me a bunch of (150) soccer buses. Other people do as well,
people buy up stuff from one place and make it available elsewhere or
worldwide. (the Telekom sets come to mind)
And this isn't confined to just US folks, sometimes the US has stuff on sale
and it makes sense for an Aussie to get a copy or 18 from a helpful US person.
So I think your thesis that local sale items are of interest to locals only is
incorrect. Unless you're advancing the tired idea that local sale items should
be reserved for locals only. So sales as an example to advance your thesis are
flawed. You ought to make your point with non sales news items, if you can.
And for local news items, this item in particular, I still am not sure I
agree. I think cartoonnetwork is available on satellite in more places than
just the US, although the contest may be only open to US residents.
> In fact, Todd has agreed with this sort of observation in the past [yet done
> little to police it :( ]:
I can't parse that icon, is that a beard on the bottom or what?
> http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.loc.au:494
> [I see no difference between sales posts as mentioned, and others like this
> competition.]
As I showed, I do.
> Todd: any chance you could do something to stop posts about US ONLY items of
> info finding their way to areas that aren't US ONLY ? [maybe make it clearer
> that .general is NOT for items of interest to ONLY 1 country, no matter what
> percentage of lugnet users are from that country?]
General is for things of worldwide interest, even if they happen to happen in
your country. Heck, I was interested in the Olympics even though they were a
local to Sydney phenomenon. <grin>
Todd is not the world's policeman, and can't (shouldn't!) police every post.
What exactly are you suggesting he do to police this, a popup that warns you
perhaps to be sure that your item is of worldwide interest when posting
to .general? What other popups would that spawn? Bog.
I'd say the current system of people politely suggesting crossposting and FUT
destinations when things appear off topic works well enough. Except of course
for the few mail subscribers who can't seem to ever post correctly in the
first place and therefore break threads.
Personally I find that a lot more annoying than a few possibly off topic posts
in general and I'd like to humbly(1) suggest that people who can't use the
tools correctly be banned. Even if it's not their fault. (the last was a
tongue in cheek suggestion, LUGNET would not be the same without you...
exactly how it would be different is left as an exercise)
1 - with apologies to Jonathan Swift
++Lar
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