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  Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
More good news for Castle folks! Based on the results of the www.LEGO.com/myOpinions survey, I would like to announce that the 2nd place winner is now also a LEGO Legend! The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle) !! 
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Contrary to popular belief, Canada is part of North America not the US... yet. ;-) Jude XFUT .loc.ca (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
I am curious what happened to the BSB? Is there a reason the 2nd place set is going to market first? "Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message news:H3D58B.FBt@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) I'm really feeling this. I just wanted to say thanks, that after Lego Castle officially died, us castle-heads have got the Guarded Inn, the Blacksmith's Shop, and now Black Falcon's Fortress. Not even to mention some of the other great things (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Jake, this is great news, but many of us are left with some question: 1) Why did this set hit the shelves in Europe before you told us about it? Many of us pondered a mysterious Kmart add and speculated, then 1000stiene suddenly had pictures. (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Your point is well taken. But then, why did you set the followups to the California newsgroup? I'll never understand Canadians. -s (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) I agree 100% with Jude! (and since I have my bachelors in geography...) but anyway, everybody should know that! :-P Shaun, I think you missed something because .loc.ca is for Canada and .loc.us.ca is for California... ;-) Pierre (who hopes to (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Yesssss!!! I can't believe it! Finally! Alright, for all of you who thought I'd continue complaining even if I got what I wanted, too bad. None from me here. This is all bliss. Anyway, thanks Jake for bringing back a true legend to lego.com. (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) I don't think lego castle is officially dead, yet it's more in a dormant state until either (1) the Harry Potter contract expires, or (2) lego releases their next wave of killer designs. I bet you lego is working on some models designs right (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
Hmmmm.... Should I buy 10039 Black Falcon's Fortress, a beautifully designed set that I can build many alternative models from, for $39.99, or buy 6091 King Leo's Castle, a....um....set, for $89.99. Hmmmm..... This could take me a while. (...) (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Just a guess but - The BSB, a larger and more expensive set, is most likely meant for the holiday season. Perhaps it is a set on store shelves and requires more time for production? Ben (22 years ago, 2-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) <Blushing> So once in high school geography, someone mentioned that North America included Canada. After college... well, lots of stuff was lost... Thanks for the reminder. Jake --- Jake McKee Senior Producer LEGO Direct (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Simple answer: The BSB is a bigger set, and thus more complex to fulfill. It is a simple case of logistics. Sorry, should have mentioned that in the original post. Jake --- Jake McKee Senior Producer LEGO Direct (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
What about Australia? We have no price listed at the moment, and this is one set that I will surely get, especially with the now-lowered shipping costs. Will this set come to the land of Oz?? (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back?
 
(...) I hope it never will but I wanted to point out something. A month ago I saw "castle" in the shop at home section, some remaining king leo stuff, the guarded inn, the blacksmith shop and such. Go look now, there is "Castle" anywhere. The (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) 421 instead of 435 in the Lugnet database for 6074? Wrong count in the database or will we have combined brick in the new set? (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) tres bien, Pierre!!! (....very good, Pierre) [which means that I find his anecdote funny, and I am happy the way he put his correction in...sharp and too the point but in a way not to hurt other's feelings!!!] ....and if I remembered my french (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) When I seen this earlier today, I had similar questions in mind. I THINK that both cases are probable. (then again, I never bought the set when it first came out, so I don't know the "official" piece count) If the piece count is indeed 435 on (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
Can we get an ETA on the BSB? Adrick (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) There are, of course, 4 countries in NA. Figure that one out! (with 3 "national" languages: Spanish, English & French) Mind you, I don't believe that Lego NA ships to the 4th country, it probably is handled through Lego EU James Powell (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) snip (...) snip Yes, I agree, this is good news, but . . . . Will this set be available in the SHOPS in New Zealand ? I think that, as it is approaching christmas, if this set appeared on the shelves of the stores over here, then it would sell (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) As far as I recall, the original 6074 set had some spare parts including (as far as I know the only LEGO castle set that really had spare parts). My theory is that the new LEGEND don't include those spares. My two cents Yaron "Webrain" Dori (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Joke #1: USA Canada Mexico Quebec? Joke #2: USA Canada Mexico Texas?? Serious response: USA Canada Mexico France (Magdalen Islands) Jeff J (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Hmmm, apparently the tongue planted firmly in cheek doesn't translate well to plain text ... ahh well, so it goes :P -s (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
Hello! (...) You are right. In both. The original 6074 had some grey spare arches (URL) could be built in at the turret: (URL) the half arches in the picture above with the arches in the building instruction: (URL) spare arches are not included with (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
Well I just got one thing to say. THANK YOU! The Black Falcon's Fortress is probably the best castle that Lego has come out with, certainly in terms of bricks for your buck (or in this case, your pound), and those Black Falcons figs are just the (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Thanks for the confirmation (...) I guess the other spare parts used to build the 2nd modal LEGO suggested (URL) we recall the set 6040 - Blacksmith Shop also included a few spare parts for the 2nd model. (URL) guess in reissuing the model (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) once-rare part will be readily available again. -- TWS Garrison (URL) capital letters in address for direct reply. (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
Where are the Magdalen Islands? The only French islands in NA i can think of are St-Pierre et Miquelon, just south of Newfoundland. And what about Greenland? That's Danish territory, but it's closer to Canada than to Denmark. Of course, if you want (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Funny! :-) (...) You probably meant St-Pierre and Miquelon Islands... Magdalen Islands are canadian (Quebec). :-) Pierre (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) ici: (URL)The only French islands in NA i can (...) Oui - I was wrong! Zut! Jeff J (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)
 
  They changed the flag
 
Hello again! Beseides the light grey swords they made another important variance in the 10039 compared to the original 6074. The Black Falcon emblem on the legendary (because almost always broken if recieved in used condition) flag has a slightly (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) This is the set I selected during the voting so you can imagine that I am well pleased at this turn of events. I'll probably buy several of these sets just as I did of the GI -- actually, I may buy even more of this set because it includes (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  ...and the minifigs
 
Hello again.... They also changed the emblem on the minifigs' torsos to the new shape: (URL) so... Bye Jojo (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: ...and the minifigs
 
(...) The new one is on the left, yes? The old one is therefore to the right... If I understand this correctly, I actually like this change. It's hard to imagine why they decided to make the alteration though...the only thing I can guess is that the (...) (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: They changed the flag
 
(...) Wow both of your flags look great! I looked at mine today and it's printed poorly: (URL) is uncommon for pieces made in the 80s... -Bryan (22 years ago, 3-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: They changed the flag
 
Hello! (...) Well, I think it was pure chance that I grabbed an accurate printed one. I've got another flag that has a crooked silver-print, too. However, the real problem is not the original printing but the children who played with the parts... (...) (22 years ago, 4-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Maybe this is part of the answer? (Clipped from the Lego website) "Rounded castle wall pieces and “timber frame” wall pieces give it a unique look!" (22 years ago, 4-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) No, as those were in the original. The timber wall is the tudor wall, and the rounded castle walls are the corner walls (12 of them, cool!). -Stefan- (22 years ago, 6-Oct-02, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.castle)
 
  Re: Black Falcon's Fortress is back!
 
(...) Central America and the Caribbean are both North America. (22 years ago, 8-Oct-02, to lugnet.loc.ca)

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