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Re: Two things I inferred from Brad's talk at Brickfest
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lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.lego.direct
Date: 
Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:29:54 GMT
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Just a quick correction here, Greg, I believe Brad said that the 2
million club members were "children" whether or not the adults were
lumped into a different category or not, I don't know, but that's what I
inferred, myself, by the way it was phrased.  Meaning that we could
potentially be smaller than even you're noting here... But I agree
totally with everything else.

Greg Kramer wrote:

> As the subject says, these are inferences, not direct quotes.  But I have
> given references to why I think my "read between the lines" statements are
> accurate.
> 
> 1. The adult fan community is probably not as important as we like to think
> we are.  Brad seemed to include us in the category of "enthusiasts", which I
> think he descibed kind of vaguely as someone who really loves the brand and
> has some "loyalty" to the products.  This enthusiast group may include the
> 2M people in the US and Canada that are in the Lego Club (the 2M figure I
> remember directly, but I'm not sure if Brad used them as an example of other
> enthusiasts besides us).  We may be more vocal than the rest, but our
> numbers (both in people and amount we spend) pale before the rest of the
> enthusiasts; and similarly the enthusiast group pales before the general
> public.  Shiri's humorous advice to "treat AFOLs like alcoholics -- they buy
> the majority of the product that liquor companies sell" got a response from
> Brad that we definitely do *not* account for the majority of his sales,
> using the example of how our Lugnet count of Guarded Inn sales was way off,
> because of the flood of orders that came when the Inn appeared in the S@H
> catalog.  I think this means we may be valuable us as a gauge of how other
> enthusiasts may feel about products, but we are not a large enough segment
> to justify creating products specifically for... the products have to appeal
> to the larger enthusiast market.
> 
> 2.  Lego does not see juniorization as a failure.  I can't quote Brad
> directly, but to paraphrase, he did respond to one question by saying
> something like "you all may hate juniorization, but that's the way kids are
> today:  they want more playabilty and they get less enjoyment out of the
> actual building experience".  Again, that is not a direct quote.  But the
> essence I got was that Lego has no intention of abandoning juniorization.
> Brad did add that he believes the product line should appeal to older ages
> as well, with non-juniorized products (and he used Star Wars as an example
> of current non-juniorized sets).
> 
> Anyone who heard it differently, please chime in.
> 
> I'm not really suprised by what I heard.  And I don't think it's the end of
> the world either.  We may never see another annual catalog full of
> non-juniorized town and castle sets, but the fact that Lego now makes
> products specifically for "Enthusiasts" (like the 'Camel, MOT, etc) will
> hopefully make up for it.
> 
> -Greg Kramer
> 
> 



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  Two things I inferred from Brad's talk at Brickfest
 
As the subject says, these are inferences, not direct quotes. But I have given references to why I think my "read between the lines" statements are accurate. 1. The adult fan community is probably not as important as we like to think we are. Brad (...) (25 years ago, 16-Jul-01, to lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.lego.direct)

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