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O Lar, you brute... (Was Re: NDAs)
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Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:39:10 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> I agree that knowing that LEGO is a company and does things for company-ish
> reasons is important... I mean, I've been saying since *forever* that LEGO
> is a company and that things need to have business cases and support and all
> that sort of gloopy stuff. And for a long time it seemed the "we want it
> because we want it" crowd was about the only voice around here. Seems to me
> the tide is turning a bit and LUGNET as a whole (if there were such a thing)
> is a bit more grounded in the realities of business.
That is the biggest piece of hogwash I have seen come from you yet. I don't
believe there has really ever been a "we want it because we want it" crowd
-- that's just a straw man of your own creation so that you can make
yourself seem important for refuting it, or something else equally obscure.
Everyone understands that TLC is in business to make a profit. Thanks for
the big revelation -- but...duh!
I think the commentary on Lugnet is generally intelligent and grounded in
certain realities. Since you are one of the most verbose TLC apologists,
perhaps it is your views that need closer scrutiny.
I'd like to have some sense of what makes short-lived ventures like
Throwbots, Roboriders, and Rock-Raiders such brilliant business choices for
TLC at this point? I bet they had dozens of reports, market research
conclusions, price point justifications for all of that crap! What careful
studies and research supports the foolishness represented by most juniorized
elements? Why did TLC have it's first loss ever if not for these seeming
blunders?
Put up or shut up, you freaking blowhard! Tell me how all that *good*
business savvy over at TLC turned out all that garbage...frankly, it looks
like they almost lost the farm with all that *good* business sense of
theirs. Where I shop, it was almost like they couldn't dump the stuff. I
have seen the same RR sets sit there until they were in such bad shelf
condition that the kids finally just trashed 'em and and spilled the
elements across the aisles of the store.
In my view, you can just throw away the conclusions of millions of dollars
worth of market researchers and business consultants and easily replace it
with the opinions of the average AFOL. Isn't that the point of the summits?
Hell, even your sorry opinion seems to be worth something to TLC. But why
the Train summit for you, Larry? Could it be because "You want it because
you want it"? Or is that ultimately too foolish a name for it even for you?
It's just too bad that it took so long for the swine to recognize the pearls
we have all been tossing before them. I dunno, maybe you got paid -- still,
they could have gotten it all here for free on Lugnet just as Suzanne Rich
has pointed out. We are the free consultants, fools that we are.
The only thing that I have really noticed anyone saying here on Lugnet is
that it would be WAY cool if certain rarer, hard to get items, could be put
back into production and sold to AFOL -- be it by the piece, in sets, in
certain quantities, or even in bulk. If that constitutes "we want it
because we want it" then I guess that's what it is -- although why
profitable suggestions should be thought of as such is beyond me. I could
be wrong, but I kinda remember you making such suggestions too -- presumably
for train stuff. As it turns out, I also recall you shooting down the same
sort of element and set suggestions on the part of others -- why you should
care I don't know. And I think this is when you began with this ridiculous
argument of ::adopting the voice of the voice of the hardest-headed, biggest
idiot ever::...
"If you want to get a certain elements or sets you have to draft a business
model that would make sense to TLC. You need charts, graphs, the opinions
of experts. You need to be able to buy the elements in million piece lots.
Blah... blah, blah..."
Uh huh...right! Can I offer you some Thorazine, Lar? What a lot of
drivel...or is that just the gob in your eye? And I think I can be forgiven
the hyperbole, it *IS* almost exactly what you expressed anyway.
Tell you what -- if you are going to be such a blowhard, could you do it a
little lower please?
Hugs and kisses,
-- Richard (Hoping TLC isn't foolish enough to ever consider a business
venture with business "genius" Lar. I wouldn't even let him draft the xhtml
on a web page.)
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| (...) A priviledge, yes. A gift? No. LEGO got just as much, if not more, out of the meeting than you did. It's important to remember that LEGO is a company. LEGO is not your friend, it's not your enemy, it's not Santa's workshop. They don't do (...) (24 years ago, 12-Feb-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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