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"David Eaton" <deaton@intdata.com> wrote in message news:I9GuDD.nKo@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) we've (...) [ ... snipped ... ] Neither of these posts by LEGO employees is a Press Release. If these posts are what Ken is referring to as (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) I'm not sure it qualifies as an actual "press release", but what I think we've been referring to is Jake's post on Lugnet: (URL) the post on 1000steine, which supposedly had very similar content: (URL) almost vaugely remember this set being on (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yeah, but what they said was true. "This is a small run too – only 14,000 total, with 10,000 coming to Shop At Home." It *WAS* a small run, and it *WAS* limited to 14K, and 10K *DID* go to S@H. Please point out the exact error in the phrase, (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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"Ken Nagel" <knandjn@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:I9GHGE.1z3u@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) be (...) [ ... snipped ... ] Where is this press release you refer to? I looked for a copy of the press release on LEGO.com was unable to (...) (22 years ago, 29-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) SNIP (...) Because that is what they said and words mean things. (...) "If" doesn't much matter as "if" wasn't true so they chose to market it as a limited set. The new color (that they took back) doesn't matter as that was to be a diffrent (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yep. Turner Suspension Bicycles ( (URL) ) does just that in this forum: (URL) good luck finding anyone whining about the constant colour changes there ;) Some might think it's sad some colours go away or change but none is raving about it. (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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Well said Tim. Many people in TLC ARE trying hard, but despite whatever some people do, it will never be good enough. This will always be a problem for every company all the time, it is not alone to just LEGO. Anyways, I always am having differences (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Thanks for the very generous offer, Scott--it was appreciated. I was lucky this year--I received the Technic Mars Rover, a Harry Potter set, and the little World City fireboat--that's a really cute little set. So I'm pretty happy--it's my (...) (22 years ago, 28-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) I don't see why you keep going back to this. What they said was true. There WERE 10,000 available publically. Or, 10,000 via S@H. It's possible Maersk made some available to the public, I guess. But again, *IF* they had had more Maersk blue, I (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Fair weather? We are not talking about a sports team who lost one game and may win tomorrow. The company is in crissis. Ignoring this is foolish. They have yet to see or admit to the problem(s) at hand. TLC's stated goal for fisal year '05 was (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) SNIP (...) They also said there would only be 10,000 availible publicly. They said it through Jake, SHO, and press releases. Kind'a hard to misread that statment. (...) If it ws just a matter of forgiving a simple mistake and not part of a (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) You've crossed the line again, Ken. You need to remember that LUGNET is a privately-owned resource and not a pulpit for you to denigrate and demean people you disagree with. Larry, as a LUGNET staff member, has the right and responsibility to (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ken, I don't see how fair-weather AFOL posts like the above do anything to help TLC or improve the hobby for anyone. Kicking someone when they're down is impolite at best; and I'm sure you've heard the phrase "part of the solution or part of (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) How did you get "ends justify the means" out of that? Wouldn't "ends justify the means" imply that it was their intent all along to lie to us? Isn't that precisely NOT what I said? (...) They didn't. You seem to think they did, though. I admit (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Snip I don't think this is part of a plot or deliberately cooked up. If it was only this problem there would be no problem. There's a patern of poor decisions, misreading the consumer (AFOL and not) and inability to see when a mistake has been (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) First off if you look around some more you'll find there's a lot of people who agree with me as to Lego's actions. Second my view of the hobby isn't so ego-centric. Half the joy comes from sharing the hobby especilly with those who have years (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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(...) Exactly I am trying to draw him out so he can see the point. If someone did something like this to him on a more personal level he'd problably be outraged. (...) Funny that the only people I've met that want to put on their brown shirts and (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) SNIP (...) The end justifies the means? (...) If their intent wasn't so then why did they present it as so? (...) If this wasn't part of a trend I have nothing to say. I find the color a curiosity, nothing I love. Nor am I an investor. The (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, David Koudys wrote: SNIP (...) God bless that. Unfortunatly they are on a down hill path. This is undeniable, even TLC knows it. Nothing they have done so far has been able to turn it around. Possibly because they have failed to see (...) (22 years ago, 27-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego)
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Dunno if it's been mentioned before, but the S@H catalog is now available at google.com: (URL) you should go via (URL) as the above URL will probably change for each catalog. They also have past catalogs available via that link, back to Sept 2001. (...) (22 years ago, 26-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.market.services)
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