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I have been follwoing the discussion about TLG's announcement regarding "design your own" set and the sub-discussion about GoB designs and the possibility of people copying them. This is a suggestion to the GoB designers. I think that your group (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) You "prize" the wrong thing, in my view. You prize the collectability of the thing, or the elitism of owning the thing, and not the thing itself. That seems pretty whacky to me, considering we are talking about plastic toys! -- Richard (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) You mistake the idea of appreciation with patronage -- and those are NOT the same thing at all. Did Michaelangelo serve as patron to Leonardo? An overblown example, but you get the point... -- Richard (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: Wondering about creation rights (Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts)
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(...) This amount is likely to be quite miniscule. Something on the order of less than $1 per copy of the set. (In the recording industry, artists usually get a dollar or two per album sold. And that is with the amount being written in a contract.) (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I wouldn't hold your breathe. They don't even support Windows2000. Bummer. And I REALLY wanted to get the MovieMaker set. Steve Martin martinsa@mail.com (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) So? If you "prize" these things for the reason I do, that you LOVE them, how could it be a bad thing to have them become available again? I value pitchforks pretty darn highly. I love the part and I wish I could have 10,000 of them. But it (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) If you do buy sets purely to build with, why does the eBay market getting hurt make you sad? I buy sets only to build with, and hurting the eBay market makes me neither happy nor sad. The only thing I see in it is that I can finally buy sets (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Because, as a LEGO issue, it's not "off-topic"? eric (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) You know, I was curious about this. So I emailed my friend Neil-- (as an aside here, Dave knows Neil, but to bring the rest of you up to date: I went to college with Neil, and we still play RPGs and wargames together on a regular basis. Neil (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Re: Desirable parts (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts)
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I agree with Tom, I doubt there is anyone with a larger inventory of rare LEGO parts than I have. Yet I am giddy with anticipation about getting more parts that are considered rare. Case in point: sloped bricks --- I have 140 regular sloped 2x2 blue (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Hello LUGNET, I wanted to let you all know that LEGO Direct is paying attention! There are a lot of discussions and meetings going on inside TLC right now about the issues mentioned in this thread. Hopefully we'll be able to post here sometime soon (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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Welcome Tomas! Thanks for posting. It is gratifying to hear every once in a while that someone in LD really is listening in (at least in this group). -John (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Massive Thought...
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I have the UNICEF stuff up on my page, at: (URL) the bottom blurb...what does it say? 3000 sets made or so!. This holds promise, that small runs are _possible_, even if not _likely_. James Powell (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Ah finally a sub thread that makes some sense. Both Tom and Gary speak wise words. I will agree that as Bulk parts become available I will almost definitely cut back on the number of sets I buy but I will more then offset that with my bulk (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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Are you sure it wasn't "ERIC HARSHBARGER"???? His EMAIL id is: eric@ericharshbarger.org Gary Istok (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | Custom Built LEGO Sets in 2002
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I am cautiously optomistic about this entire revelation, but I am skeptical about whether or not they will have an extensive part/color inventory for us to use. If so, here is a scenario that I would consider: ---...--- For those of you who have (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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(...) Ding! This is why people's fears at giving LEGO the ability to market their models are bunk. If you figure out what pieces you need, you can create instructions for an ugly "alternate model", and build the real model when you get the parts. (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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(...) Well said! With the introduction of the Mickey Mouse sets, some Fabuland elements which had been near impossible to find much less afford became both available and affordable. It is a glorious feeling to have some elements that I thought I (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Thank you very much for your input! This topic is being discussed in detail, and we're considering all options. Some members have already discussed plans to do so, some are not sure about it. It's too early to evaluate what the effect of TLC (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) If LEGO offers a free program that does LEGO/CAD, It would probably have to run locally and store the model design locally. The only thing that would actually have to be transmitted to LEGO is the parts list. So the program would have a (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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(...) It sounds like this method could be useful for bulk orders as well. All you would have to do is stack up the parts/colors you want (via LEGO/CAD) without having to assemble them into a structure. The whole "building" issue could be moot. Gary (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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(...) Good idea! --Todd [xfut => lugnet.org] (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.org)
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(...) You'd have to trust the program, of course -- that it wouldn't sneakily upload the model as well as the parts list. If you don't have the source code to the program or you aren't able to reverse-engineer it, lord knows what it's doing. --Todd (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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(...) Yes, I saw that you'd posted a few message over the last few days. My impression of you is a general skeptic - you'll believe something when it happens. So I was a bit surprised on the message you posted. Not a bad surprise. Just a surprise. (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) I wouldn't be surprised if "one in 10 Lego buyers is now a grownup" is really just a translation of "10% of our sales are for consumption by adults". 10% of sales is still a whopping good margin, when you consider the impact AFOLs can have as (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) ...which goes back to the idea of designing a "dummy model" out of the parts you want, and sending that. You get the parts you want, and TLC comes nowhere near the model you don't want them to have. eric (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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(...) I clicked the link (hey, why not), and yes, it's a way[1] to request 'BETA tape'. I assume it's what Kevin posted, a professional format video tape. (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Now *there's* an idea I can get behind, and fully support. :) Steve (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.cad)
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"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:4blv2toer0dgb6l...4ax.com... (...) I'm behind that one too. :-) -- Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com (URL) - Centralized LDraw Resources (URL) - Zacktron Alliance ICQ: 23951114 - AIM: (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Why force people to have to build it at all first - just let them order what they want from a list and have the computer model as an alternative for creating instructions if they want to use it. The whole thing with forcing people, via (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message news:4blv2toer0dgb6l...4ax.com... (...) A more serious analysis would conclude that TLC could do something better themselves, but as of yet we don't know their exact intentions with this software (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Agreed. It just seems a waste of effort, because presumably first you had to design the real one to find out what parts you needed (or build a real one, but in either case, divine the needed parts). Someone may write a mixmaster program to (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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| | Online LEGO users design their own sets
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Taken from : (URL) LEGO users design their own sets. ---...--- The LEGO Company now gives consumers power over product development, including the extraordinary step of letting online users design their own LEGO® products. "We have always believed (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.announce)
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Good thought! But alas, no it wasn't Eric. Anyone else have an idea? Thanks! -Peter "Gary Istok" <gistok@umich.edu> wrote in message news:3A2FB1BA.38AEA1...ich.edu... (...) yesterday (...) home (...) that (...) leave. (...) of (...) let (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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(...) Yep, I'm pretty sure most of us would agree that making *all* parts available would be ridiculously expensive (from TLC's point of view at least). (...) I have a feeling that those people talking with TLC about good parts are representative of (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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I hope they don't support lcad, I hope they get rid of all those Lego computer games and concentraty on making cheaper lego blocks and better models or perhaps they won't be around next generation. Koen (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.cad)
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(...) I agree just let us order what we want from the list. Why must people be forced to either give away a design before they even have a chance to build it for themselves or go through time consuming machinations to protect their intellectual (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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(...) Tom and I often end up bidding on the same lots, he usually wins ;-( deeper pockets, but the point is that we both want MANY more garage doors, for building not collecting, hoarding or resaling. If I had the chance to buy more doors, I'd need (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Sheree Rosenkrantz writes: <snip> (...) Just a little story to reenforce this. When I was little my parents got me my first set of LEGO. Don't remember what it was but the got it from Sears mail order and it came in a plain (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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(...) I agree to some extent... I think the parents are very much to blame for this, though. I mean, who actually buys LEGO? Parents do, and most of them steer clear of the Classic line in favor of flashy themes. It's really interesting to listen to (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)
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