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Re: The History of LEGO Plates - Part 1.
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Date: 
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:13:13 GMT
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Bill Katz wrote:

Gary Istok (gistok@umich.edu) wrote:

: Rufus T. Falkenstein wrote:

: >
: > it might be of interest that i found one of the architecture lego boxes
: > a while ago. that one had only the 1x2 plates with rectangular pips. i'm
: > quite sure now that they do not come in other than the architecture
: > sets.
: >
: > have fun,
: >
: > rufus t.

: Thanks for the info Rufus.  I can verify that this weekend.  I have some Cellulose
: Acetate 1x2 green plates (USA Samsonite only - hence not from an Architectural
: Pack).

: Gary Istok

I know that I got ones eith spare pips in my truck models (331/332/33/etc.)
from about 1970.  These being Samsonite/US models.

        -Bill

Yes, and I checked my Samsonite green plates.  They also have those pips.  I tend to
think that all 1x2 plates from the 1960's have that pip.

Also, on another note.  I can now say with certainty that Cellulose Acetate plates were
indeed produced in Europe as well as by Samsonite (USA/Canada).  Over the weekend I got
some parts packs in the mail from a European collector.  One of them was 1x1 and 1x2
white plates in an Architectural parts pack that were Cellulose Acetate.

I have 26 European plates parts packs in my collection, 24 of which are the
Architectural packs.  Of these 26, only one is Cellulose Acetate.

Also, I purchased in Germany (about 20 years ago) a "plate mosaic" picture on a 50x50
grey baseplate from the 1960's which was made by TLG for European Dealers to promote
these new "plates".  (I removed the plates from the baseplate about 15 years ago, the
glue was pretty easy to get off.)  Of the approximately 350 plates that used to be glued
onto that picture, there were 17 Cellulose Acetate plates - 6 red, 5 white, and ...... 6
blue plates !!!!!!!!!  I thought that maybe blue and yellow plates did not exist in
Cellulose Acetate (since they weren't sold by Samsonite at the time).  But I have (3)
2x3 and (3) 2x4 blue plates that have that common Cellulose Acetate warping, and
slightly lighter color.

So, I think that Cellulose Acetate was used in the USA/Canada (Samsonite) for all the
early plates (mid 1960's), and the TLG Europe produced only a limited quantity of plates
before switching to ABS plastic.  I would venture to guess that about 5% of the early
plates were made of Cellulose Acetate, while the vast majority were of ABS plastic.

So after all this discussion, here is what I would consider to be highly collectible in
Cellulose Acetate:

1) Green (Samsonite) Cellulose Acetate plates - never produced in Europe in the 1960's.

2) Blue or Yellow Cellulose Acetate plates - never produced in USA in the 1960's, and
very rare in Cellulose Acetate in Europe.

Gary Istok



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(...) collectible in (...) the 1960's. (...) 1960's, and (...) Somewhere in my collection I've seen a 1x2 plate with a square pip on the bottom. I'd like to look through and find any Cellulose Acetate bricks. How can I tell them from ABS? Naji (25 years ago, 4-Aug-99, to lugnet.general)

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Gary Istok (gistok@umich.edu) wrote: : Rufus T. Falkenstein wrote: : > : > it might be of interest that i found one of the architecture lego boxes : > a while ago. that one had only the 1x2 plates with rectangular pips. i'm : > quite sure now that (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jul-99, to lugnet.general)

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